Meeting with Tim Lavalli - July 12th, 1998
These meeting minutes were originally taken from the Silicon Soup newspaper from Hotel Silicon. The avatar named Benjamin was Tim Lavalli, aka Brother Echo.
Brother Echo: Sorry, that avatar is not currently in world. <system>: Entering Locale: manager interview Benjamin: Well lets start when Judy gets here Judy Jupiter: Greetings Judy Jupiter: <grin> Benjamin: Hi Benjamin: my only request is that we not go over the ground covered on Thursday Benjamin: other than that, its all open Benjamin: all worlds including RW Benjamin: Sidney would you like to start? Sidney: It may be a challenge to find more ground. Although you did leave Hotel as a topic for today Sidney: Ok, should I start with Hotel? Marianne G: Hey JJ <wave> Benjamin: well and I also kept MY items until today Judy Jupiter: Hi Marianne Benjamin: <grin><grin><grin><grin> Benjamin: sure Hotel Sidney: Ah, the baby is off my shoulder... No more excuses for my typos <grin> Benjamin: DS was the original and began with great attention Judy Jupiter: lol Sidney: Hi, everybody <grin> Benjamin: CC is of course the current launch Benjamin: HS on the otherhand has a strange history Benjamin: which I am sure you know Marianne G: That's for sure <grin> Benjamin: Beta (Hallway) to Hotel (free) to Hotel (paid) Benjamin: there are plans for Hotel Benjamin: but they are clearly AFTER Club Connect Benjamin: thats both good and bad news Sidney: Ok, Hotel was promised commercial content, computer room, etc., as was reported in Soup last April. Have those plans been shelved? Benjamin: commercial content--yes Benjamin: computer/tech focus I think not Benjamin: that area seems just too too done on the web Benjamin: there is a plan right now to convert Hotel to a Futures World Sidney: Um, just to be clear, yes will be shelved or yes will be done sometime? <grin> Benjamin: and the point person on that is working to line up partners Judy Jupiter: may we just throw in questions matching the topic? Benjamin: my best and most honest guess it that Hotel will get the same type of focused attention that CC is getting Benjamin: but not until fall Benjamin: sure Judy Jupiter: Is there a new theme planned for the "future" Hotel? Sidney: I don't mind Benjamin: the sheer volumn of art keeps that dept too busy Benjamin: the Futures aspect will mean Benjamin: business, tech, commercial futures Benjamin: as well as cultural, social and goverment Benjamin: Future of the WW worlds Benjamin: not future as in Sci-Fi Judy Jupiter: <grin> Benjamin: although I am holding out for a Sci-Fi section Benjamin: and Futures Art style Judy Jupiter: Are the plans to build a new, low ToS world put aside for now? Benjamin: the point person has been both a think tanker staffer Marianne G: Speaking of social and cultural, the Hotel has a 'different' makeup then the other two dream worlds.... is this 'change' to reflect their different society they have there now? Benjamin: and a researcher Sidney: Welcome MarvL Benjamin: I low TOS idea is not on the horizon at present Judy Jupiter: Hi MarvL Benjamin: HI MarvL Sidney: Would you like me to email yo uthe transcript so far? Marianne G: MarvL, nice to see you.... I'll save and send you transcripts if you like <grin> Benjamin: just yakking about Hotel MarvL: Thanks! <grin><grin> Benjamin: its the first topic Benjamin: more on that BTW? Judy Jupiter: The current population in Hotel seems not to be very high, what will you do about this? Judy Jupiter: yes please, a last one<grin> Benjamin: I have just this week given the Concierges some more leeway to make Hotel a lot more entertaining Benjamin: until we can effect the changes Benjamin: the key problem there is the economy Marianne G: Sidney, you going to get MarvL, since you have his ICQ and I don't? Benjamin: building any reasonable economy on a base of what Hotel has been (object wise0 is quite a challenge MarvL: Get me?? Very few people do that <grin> Marianne G: As in get the transcripts to you <grin><grin> Benjamin: but I hope Hotel will be more stable now and in the future Judy Jupiter: okay<grin> Benjamin: but in all honesty, the big focus will be this fall Marianne G: About the question I asked, are these changes being made to reflect the current society that is in residence there? Judy Jupiter: For Hotel, right? Marianne G: as it is a tad different then the one in the other two worlds Benjamin: well I think it has been made clear that a rowdy, open, gamer type of world is not in our plans Marianne G: Three, actually, if you count Pride <grin> <system>: This is scenery. Benjamin: so the "freedom" that some love in the old Beta Hotel is not likely to be encouraged again Sidney: (emailed transcript to MarvL) Benjamin: in a paid format MarvL: In Pride there is a clear lower age limit. Are there age limits in Club Connect? Benjamin: CC is meant to have an adult focus Benjamin: since it is about "all the relationships in your lief Benjamin: life Benjamin: but one of the xoom neighbourhoods about to come in is their families Sidney: And along with that, what about the different age limits for valets (21), acolytes (18) and guides (16?) Benjamin: the age for helper policy was very nebulous until recently Benjamin: I have had to make a policy on that just this week Marianne G: I didn't know there was one <grin><grin><grin> geesh I'm out of the loop Benjamin: and although not one will be released Marianne G: good thing I pass Benjamin: from this point forward the age limit is 21 MarvL: Could you rework the come in is their families?? That's going to be hard to edit <react> Benjamin: unless and until I heard a very compellinbg argument to set it lower Benjamin: sure Benjamin: xoom is bringing in I believe six of their "neighborhoods" they are Benjamin: Women's Circle Benjamin: Single Benjamin: Gay& Lesbian Benjamin: New Age Benjamin: Families Benjamin: Graphic Arts Benjamin: yep six MarvL: I'll save my Graphic Arts question for the technical part of the interview <grin> Marianne G: So part of the relationship in life, will include that relationship within Families? Benjamin: you can see what those focus on by going to their web site Benjamin: right Marianne G: As sponsored by the Xoom Partnership? Benjamin: well I think you can talk about your family without being in their suite <grin><grin><grin> Judy Jupiter: Since I haven't been here last time, may I ask for the date of the official opening of CC? Marianne G: do you have that web site URL by any chance? Benjamin: 24th Judy Jupiter: thanks Benjamin: www.xoom.com MarvL: It's in our recent article, MG <grin> Marianne G: Easy one <grin><grin> MarvL: All four of them are, actually. Benjamin: OK JJ are you next? Judy Jupiter: I don't mind though <g> Benjamin: Marianne Benjamin: whomever Marianne G: Going back to something you said before.... you said you cleared it for them to provide more entertainment in Hotel.... Anything in particular they have lined up? Marianne G: or that you had in mind that you had to realease them to provide? Benjamin: Well that Mystery event was a big success Marianne G: With the chefs <grin> Benjamin: and they just had a Girl's Paint Party Benjamin: but I did preveiw some more new locales for there Marianne G: And plan a Boyz I understand <grin> Benjamin: and they will get a Barnes&Noble Marianne G: New locales, but not, as stated before, till the fall? Benjamin: no some new ones sooner than that Marianne G: So these were already in the works? Sidney: What will be the theme of the Hotel B&N? Benjamin: a couple this month I beleive Benjamin: yes I did an art check just yesterday Benjamin: good question Sidney Marianne G: More cracks in the walls <grin> Benjamin: I am sure the Virtual Business list will go up there Benjamin: and some of the sci-fi Sidney: One of my pending questions was what the cracks in the wall mean <grin> Benjamin: but I just send a request for that type of foucs to our Hotel person Marianne G: I figured it was from the Hotel expansion <grin><grin> Benjamin: well the cracks appeared about the time those three semismologists began to arrive Benjamin: hint hint hint Benjamin: Dr Irv Quake Judy Jupiter: omg what is a semismologist? Marianne G: Great, they built on a fault line <grin><grin><grin> Judy Jupiter: oh Judy Jupiter: got it<grin> Sidney: Probably a misspelled seismologist <grin> MarvL: So Hotel MIGHT fall apart after all <react> Judy Jupiter: LOL Sid Benjamin: well for one thing its misspelled Benjamin: fall apart hmmmmmmm Benjamin: define apart <grin><grin><grin> Sidney: Probably something to do with version 3.0 and distributerd objects. Benjamin: well as long as you mentioned 3.0 Sidney: distributed, rather. Benjamin: MarvL you want to try a couple of your questions MarvL: Several of the more vocal avatars have shot themselves in the mouth with their dire predictions about Hotel Silicon. MarvL: OK, Benjamin: yes and some of the staff love those rumors Benjamin: in fact we all do Marianne G: Apart - Into pieces or parts, Seperated or away from in place time or motion Marianne G: So.... we talking 2 pieces or more? MarvL: What review procedures to you use to ensure consistent enforcement of the TOS for the various worlds? Marianne G: You DID say to define Apart Benjamin: OK then Hotel will not fall apart Benjamin: Any use of powers is reported to me Benjamin: or my designated manager Judy Jupiter: Will there be Avatars involved in the new plans? Benjamin: but the ddebate that follows some of the obvious uses are to me really boring and not worth engaging Benjamin: consistency in total requires either a police state or anarchy Benjamin: and we of course are interested in neither MarvL: Have you considered simply posting some of the "actions" in the official record, and allowing us to refer folks to precedent? Marianne G: Do you believe that some act up just to 'see' if there will be a reaction? Benjamin: I will take both of those Benjamin: posting could be an option Benjamin: the problem I have is making RULES Sidney: There was mention in the May WA Manager interview and again in June of a TOS-free zone or a low-TOS zone. Still possible? MarvL: You can avoid RULES if you have precedents. Benjamin: since nothing here happens in a vaccuum Marianne G: Don't the precedents become rules in a way? Benjamin: each use of power gets me emails on both sides MarvL: That's really the whole point of common law. You proceed by analogy. Benjamin: yes some do Benjamin: and I think each of you could now tell me the common law in DS Benjamin: right? MarvL: And put all the lawyers out of work??? <react> Judy Jupiter: LOL Marianne G: Pretty much with no need to post them Marianne G: Now THERE'S a dream world <grin> MarvL: There we VERY much disagree, MG Benjamin: well if there is a need then I would like their phrasing to come from the community and not me MarvL: Rumors about what's permissible puts the Acolytes under WAY too much pressure. Benjamin: I would comment as needed Benjamin: well Echo always reminds me of his first rule to staff Benjamin: "You can always talk to a customer MarvL: Ummm, common law derives from enforcement, NOT from rules. Marianne G: Well, I can say, that perhaps I've been lucky, but that has not been one of the pressures I've had Benjamin: If there is a need for codification then I would be interested to read a draft Sidney: (Holding tongue on a punchline to that rule) Benjamin: but completely uninterested in writing it Benjamin: which does not mean that my staff can or cannot be involved in such an endeavor MarvL: Suppose someone were to write it. Would the current Acolyte Guide be available as a template? Benjamin: sure that guide has been released before Benjamin: in fact its being updated now for CC MarvL: Oh really?? Where can I get a copy? Benjamin: I will put that on my list MarvL: But to focus on my question, when you DO review an action, MarvL: is it available to the press? Benjamin: if anything needs to be done I speak to the acolyte and/or the citizen as needed MarvL: And leave everybody else in the dark?? How are we supposed to learn? Benjamin: I would have to be convinced that publication would serve some purpose Marianne G: We've covered DS, CC and Hotel, I'm sure there's questions more on each of them, but as manager of all of them, do you see them evolving as very seperate entities? And will they be able to keep their identity? MarvL: Do you send the information to the other Acolytes? Benjamin: there is no rule but when it is a new situation it goes to all staff otherwise no Benjamin: The worlds are separate Marianne G: MarvL, it's been my experience that when one has been voided, sent to the cellar, or whatever, it's become public knowledge fairly quickly WITHOUT publication Benjamin: and will remain so in as many ways as we can devise MarvL: OK, keep your eyes open for the possibility of sending one to the Papers, too. Benjamin: well court records are public info Marianne G: So you do STRIVE to present them as unique products? Benjamin: but we are not to that point yet Benjamin: absolutely unique Benjamin: the commercial content of CC will not be imported to DS MarvL: But we are stuck with a VERY one-sided version of the story, because of current policy. The Acolytes can't even talk to the press about the incidents. Judy Jupiter: So DS will stay an "ad-free-zone" ? Benjamin: one-sided is true, I simply cannot however deal with the press here as fully open to all sides MarvL: bite tongue <grin> Benjamin: when words spoken by any individual are treated as absolute truth Benjamin: I cite the Kari Peace stories Benjamin: Silicon Soap in every article MarvL: I'm not away of anyone who thought they were truth, let alone absolute <grin> Benjamin: and anything that comes out of the mouth of <__> or <____> Benjamin: but is it not the function of the press to question? Marianne G: MarvL, you have to admit, he has a point there, and there are many readers who don't even look to see who wrote the article Benjamin: why would you wait for FSBA to respond Marianne G: or consider the source Benjamin: we never ever do that! Marianne G: or what agenda they may have Benjamin: I would have to hire an inworld press person to respond to all the crap we hear Benjamin: truthful and not Marianne G: but getting back to other issues, Benjamin, you had a few items you wanted to discuss? MarvL: Well, FSBA is getting MUCH better. The kiosks and so forth help a lot. Now it's up to us to demonstrate that this sort of interview is time well invested. Benjamin: good leadin for one of my issues Benjamin: if I might Marianne G: Perhaps they will answer questions we have <grin> Benjamin: Each and every member of my staff who does any customer service Benjamin: is required to spend time inworld Benjamin: in fact they only get to do cs if they have such a presence MarvL: I'll bet you really have to twist arms, huh <grin><grin> Benjamin: yet citizens wil write letters and ESPmails Benjamin: about how much they personally have done for the community\ Benjamin: and yet they feel they can abuse my staff Benjamin: this is not an ordinary product Benjamin: you have to face the person you call an idiot or worse Benjamin: and I expect my staff to be treated with respect Benjamin: and not accused of banishing someone Benjamin: or deleting an account Benjamin: why would anyone thing we would toss them out Judy Jupiter: But don't you expect your staff to treat your customers with the same respect? Benjamin: we are running a business Benjamin: thats busine$$ Benjamin: I expect my staff to treat eveyone with the respect they deserve Judy Jupiter: Cu$tomer$ too<grin> Benjamin: the customer is NOT always right MarvL: Publishing the "actions", honest to god, will help a lot with that sort of nonsense. Benjamin: I am beginning to see youjr point MarvL Benjamin: take last week Benjamin: 6 accoutns got deleted for no reasone we can find MarvL: I would LOVE to point to a previous incident, and tell somebody that they are being boring and wasting our time. Benjamin: 4 customers told us and got them back in 4 hours Benjamin: 1 we cannnot find Benjamin: the other customer put up a webpage they we had thrown them out MarvL: Something like that would be a great article, actually. Benjamin: and then they started to give away all their stuff Benjamin: Note they we inworld MarvL: We all know that computers aren't perfect. Benjamin: were Benjamin: well MarvL not everyone seems to know that Judy Jupiter: Oh, I do <g> Benjamin: oh and this happend from 2 AM to 9 AM WAT Marianne G: Yes, but, if they don't read TOS, as proved by all the hacks that abound, you think they're going to take an article seriously? MarvL: There's LOTS of that going around. <grin> Previous examples help to establish norms, however. Benjamin: so you can see how stunned the staff was on that one Marianne G: Which reminds me, is there ever going to be anything that can be done about hacks? Benjamin: well perhaps we will write up a FSU Benjamin: Frequesnt Screw Ups Judy Jupiter: you read my mind Judy Jupiter: <G> Benjamin: with customers responses Benjamin: hacks are a fact of life MarvL: Well, there ARE the forums, .... aren't there <grin> Benjamin: and some of the hackers we really appreciate becasue they come to us first Benjamin: they love these worlds Benjamin: you will see improvement in billng processes Benjamin: that last statement is back on the record Judy Jupiter: When will direct debit take place? Sidney: Are you back on the record now? Sidney: ok Benjamin: I just submitted my final specs for DD Marianne G: Yes, and will there be a big announcement when it is ready for the European customers? Benjamin: but let me ask a question of you Benjamin: on DD Benjamin: its not about how many current customers want it Benjamin: but how many have we never reached because we lack it Benjamin: ???? Judy Jupiter: good question Benjamin: that was the thrust of my report to management Benjamin: current numbers are not the main issue MarvL: I lived in Spain for four years. You can't even GET an apartment without signing up for DD. Benjamin: its future customers Benjamin: good point I will use it Marianne G: Not to mention those waiting in the wings for it, I know a few of them. Sidney: That certainly matches up with what I have heard from Europeans. Benjamin: right Benjamin: OK\ Judy Jupiter: How will people know there's a great virtual world available, charging flatrate and available by DIRECT DEBIT? Marianne G: So, will there be a big announcement when it comes? Benjamin: BIG Judy Jupiter: Are there any marketing plans for Europe? Benjamin: we actually have engaged a web PR firm Marianne G: And will your partners program help to spread that message? Judy Jupiter: Every European can do DD, but very few can do CC.<shrug> Benjamin: partners will certainly stock CC Benjamin: and I assume if you are in CC, someone will mention DS Benjamin: right??!!!! Benjamin: and then HS Benjamin: and then.... MarvL: Will be be able to buy book in the Barnes and Noble store? Marianne G: I'm sure the word will get out <grin> Judy Jupiter: I meant credit card, when I said CC Benjamin: books, magazines and software Benjamin: right JJ Judy Jupiter: and... Marianne G: So... the partners will support Credit Cards, but maybe not Direct Debit? Judy Jupiter: Will you provide the registration pages/forms in another language but English, when DD takes place? Benjamin: German pages are coming Sidney: (Hoping they don't announce a DreamDomain to add to the acronym confusion) Judy Jupiter: That's great news<grin> Benjamin: partners use our pages Benjamin: so what we support they support Benjamin: not a dream domain Marianne G: No but they have a Comedy Central world planned <grin> Benjamin: but perhaps free email Benjamin: tied to your avatar name Marianne G: Just kidding <grin><grin> Judy Jupiter: LOL MarvL: Can you confirm the rumor that the partners are providing some folks that will trained as Guides? Benjamin: close Marianne G: Now that's an Idea, free EMail tied to your Avatar name, that you can get while online and inworld. Benjamin: we will attempt to select the next group of guides from those "hosts" the partners proide Benjamin: provide for their suites MarvL: I'm ready to ask about documents in general, whenever we get there. Benjamin: easy answer but not satisfactory Benjamin: 3.0 Judy Jupiter: Is there a marketing concept to attract *new* customers in Europe, when DD takes place? Benjamin: same for your graphics question Benjamin: yes JJ there is Marianne G: Will those guides be working exclusivly for the partner they represent, or be a guide for the entire dream world they're on? Sidney: As long as we are mentioning Guides, to back up a bit... What about current ones who are under 21? Benjamin: Hosts work only for the suite, Guides work the whole world Marianne G: I believe he said no one would be let go earlier MarvL: Once upon a time we were provided with a wish list an a bit of a schedule. I such a document still available? Sidney: Whoops -- meant to say that outloud Benjamin: right Benjamin: from Vaserius, Teresias, and all the ex-WA teamers I have about 60 such lists <system>: Time to find a pawn machine! Benjamin: documents as we have them are used in Japan Benjamin: they are very buggy Marianne G: We've noticed <grin> Benjamin: and I have not ask tech to recode them Benjamin: as any recoding in 2.x will not transfer to 3.0 MarvL: Your monthly Newsletter might be a good place for a "3.0" article. Judy Jupiter: Now, that you mention Japan.... Will we ever get skirts on athletic female bodies in DS?<grin><grin><grin> Marianne G: SKIRTS? Not on my Bod! Benjamin: I will ask for that to be addressed Marianne G: Only if you have a choice <grin><grin><grin> Judy Jupiter: LOL Marianne, you can still choose<grin> Benjamin: I can say that the current 6 avies will not change in 2.x Benjamin: any major code changes will not be done in 2.x Judy Jupiter: When do you expect 3.0 to take place? Benjamin: I would rather have it done right in 3.0 Benjamin: 3.0 is not RSN Benjamin: it is not being done by the current WA team Benjamin: we are 2.x only Judy Jupiter: oh? Marianne G: So, who's doing it? Benjamin: but it is being worked on elsewhere Sidney: I'm happy to hear a realistic answer <grin> Benjamin: its my job Sidney MarvL: A related question. What size population are you using as a design target for the 3.0 software? Benjamin: I am not fond of RSN Benjamin: good queston Judy Jupiter: Does your comment include major staff replacements? Benjamin: first we are not sure of the population size on the 2.x software Benjamin: I hope CC will tell us that Marianne G: Does the team doing 3.0 have previous experience? All new? Benjamin: then I can spec the 3.0 size MarvL: Meaning you haven't stressed the system as yet?? Benjamin: JJ I do not understand your question Benjamin: Marianne , they work from our specifications Judy Jupiter: You say that somebody else but your team will work on the 3.0 version, Judy Jupiter: what will your team and you be doing then? Benjamin: we have not stressed the system since 2.3 changes Benjamin: we are 2.x only Benjamin: but we review 3.0 when it is presented to us Judy Jupiter: Okay Marianne G: so after we go to 3.0 what happens then? Marianne G: In other words, do I have this right.... Benjamin: first we approve it Marianne G: is one team doing ummm maintaining the current product and small revisions Benjamin: then WE do the transition work Benjamin: right Marianne G: and another team doing the major rework? Benjamin: right Judy Jupiter: good Marianne G: Ok, got it <grin> Judy Jupiter: thanks Marianne<grin> <g> Benjamin: but it all has to pass by us Benjamin: we are the super beta for the 3.0 folks <system>: You're broke. MarvL: Could you comment on the effort to connect to an addition ISP for alternate routing. Marianne G: Now, when the coversion from 2.x to 3.0 comes, will it be as stressful to some as the conversion to the web was? <system>: You're still broke! Benjamin: the larger FSBA FAI system is bieng looked at and we are a part of that Sidney: FAI?? Benjamin: yes it will be stressfu lto some but so is waking up Benjamin: another of the F acronyms MarvL: The publishable ones <grin> Benjamin: the whole system ours and others in Silicon Valley are being looked at Sidney: Fujitsu Across the Internet? Benjamin: verionet <___________> Benjamin: verionet has some <ahem. recurring issues Lady Rayven: Sorry, that avatar is not currently in world. Benjamin: OK more questions? Judy Jupiter: May I ask a question about something totally different please? Marianne G: I mean, is it planned to be a you sign on, download some stuff and you're upgraded..... or a world goes down for 24 hours Benjamin: silly question Ben Judy Jupiter: LOL Marianne G: and hope you still exsist when it comes on MarvL: Well, the whole internet looks like it was designed by a bunch of beavers. It sort of just growed <grin> Benjamin: no idea Marianne Marianne G: Ok, thanks Benjamin: disturbed beavers Benjamin: JJ? Marianne G: They were on uppers at the time <grin> Judy Jupiter: I thought about entertainment in DS and the other worlds aswell. All events have always the same games or contests. To provide something new, would the inworld staff be willing to work together on good ideas? MarvL: Share with us some of your thinking on the "necessity" reintroducing rare objects. <system>: You have been removed from the locale by the owner and you are now a ghost. <system>: Entering Locale: Elevator 2 <system>: Sorry, that object is no longer accessible. ESP to Marianne G: what was this now`? LOL ESP to Marianne G: did I say something wrong?<sigh><sigh><sigh> Marianne G: I think he just crashed MarvL: Me thinks he crashed <grin> ESP from Marianne G: No, you didn't <grin> <system>: Entering Locale: manager interview MarvL: I was shooting at Verio a few months ago too. Benjamin: well that was the strangest crash I have had Marianne G: Good, have to have my seat, it shows off my ponytail MarvL: Just cause it's not perfect, doesn't imply that it's not the best that's available. Benjamin: I think JJ had a question Marianne G: I noticed, you got up and left.... as if you were rushing to the bathroom, but if you rather not discuss it <grin><grin><grin> Judy Jupiter: yes Benjamin: I just forze with a red text box Benjamin: JJ? Judy Jupiter: I was thinking about the entertainment in here and the other worlds, Judy Jupiter: and the games and contests are the same all the time, Benjamin: no strippers! <grin><grin><grin> Judy Jupiter: ROFL Benjamin: wel actually CC has a new event Judy Jupiter: not done... Marianne G: You have to come to a CHAOS game <grin> Sidney: We had fern dancers years ago Benjamin: I forget what it is called MarvL: Related: and support such as Acolyte prizes. Judy Jupiter: Is the inworld staff willing to help out on that? I am thinking about something special though, Benjamin: but I would like to see new games and have asked staff to support those attempts Judy Jupiter: painting avatars Marianne G: A table dancer won the last dance contest <grin> Judy Jupiter: I have a new game Judy Jupiter: a new host program Benjamin: painting is very power-individual intensive Judy Jupiter: They do it in Hotel too though Marianne G: Actually, we had a paint party one CHAOS Marianne G: And it is time intensive Benjamin: yes and then they collapse for a day Judy Jupiter: LOL Benjamin: but they do it in Hotel and I let them Judy Jupiter: Okay, so you say forget it Judy <g> MarvL: There is a LOT of under the table information about color mapping and the like. Benjamin: no send it to the inworld staff and they will consider it Judy Jupiter: What if you have one of your staff, who is bored on their duty (since everybody is following the Tos now) doing it? <g> MarvL: Could you provide enough technical information for us to turn it into an article? Benjamin: oh yes we get requests all the time with the maps Benjamin: well for one avie it means Benjamin: 1- listening to them Benjamin: 2- typing in 16 numbers correctly Benjamin: 3- not using bad colors and bad art Benjamin: 4- then listening to them say Benjamin: well thats not what I wanted <grin><grin><grin><sigh><sigh> Judy Jupiter: LOL Judy Jupiter: that's the bad example <grin> Marianne G: Can I get my skin just a shade darker <grin><grin><grin> Benjamin: but I will talk to techs about the "paint tool Judy Jupiter: That's great<grin> Benjamin: it is on the list Benjamin: the top list even MarvL: You could sell an artist's pallete object for 2000T I'll bet <grin><grin> Marianne G: Imagine the bad paint jobs we'll have to see then <grin> Marianne G: by budding Picasso's MarvL: It's a easy way to KNOW someone has bad taste <grin><grin> Benjamin: yes I know Echo was very reluctant to approve the new black and white sprays Benjamin: they are very flat Benjamin: and the artists cringe so loud Benjamin: Ok one more each MarvL: Just testing something <grin><grin> Ya gotta read the paper <grin> Sidney: (quickly scanning notes...} Benjamin: yes Benjamin: no Benjamin: sure maybe Marianne G: All I saw was him passing behind Sidney <grin><grin> Benjamin: are we done Benjamin: <grin><grin><grin> MarvL: I'm ok. Marianne G: MarvL you have one? Judy Jupiter: yes MarvL: Ahhh, Sidney: MarvL, I could say the same about your question about the CC elevator... Read it in BoD <grin> Benjamin: CC elevator will be fixed MarvL: Will these interviews be a regular feature?? Benjamin: the home option needs to be reset for all old avies Judy Jupiter: Sorry if I asked questions which have been asked in an earlier conference already Benjamin: I would be willing to do this ---yes Judy Jupiter: <grin> Benjamin: I will even pay the rent on this turf <grin> MarvL: Monthly, or event driven? Benjamin: how about---need driven Marianne G: That's two questions <grin><grin> Benjamin: you tell me when you need me Benjamin: if enough comes up in a month--then sure