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This town meeting was held impromptu on September 9th, 1999 as a response to recent price changes that were made to the Dreamscape. Following is the introductory text of the article this transcript originally came from which provides additional context, as well as images taken from the meeting.

The original article was taken from [https://web.archive.org/web/20030209032331/http://www.vplanet.org/ https://web.archive.org/web/20030209032331/http://www.vplanet.org/]

=Kymer News - the Virtual Planet - Early Response to New VZones Pricing - Sept. 9, 1999 by gloree=
Some Kymer citizens are greatly worried about the new price changes for VZones.  Below is one example.

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In the news released Wednesday morning, VZones will offer membership to it's customers for $9.95 for a time period of six months as opposed to the $19.95 that Dreamscape citizens pay for one month.  As Michael and Delilah mentioned in the previous announcement, pricing alternatives are also being sought for the Dreamscape. 

The community concern brought '''Delilah''' and '''Michael''' in for an impromptu town meeting.

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They explained that NRW and Club Connect are commercial worlds and cannot be compared directly to the Dreamscape.  They reassured us that they both have their virtual roots in Kymer, and will do all they can to protect the Dreamscape.  They also stated that plans for alternative Dreamscape pricing are being worked on, and these may indeed lead to lower prices here as well.  However, the details of these arrangements cannot be divulged at this time.  [My guess is there are unfinished deals in the making.]  We should expect some information about these alternatives as soon as it is available, but this could still be weeks away.  They ask for your support and trust as they work hard behind the scenes to make our world even better. 

There will be a town meeting Saturday at 1:00 in front of the main temple entrance.  If you have questions to be answered, please send them to :  delilah@avaterra.com   or michael@avaterra.com 


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<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: Hello Delilah&lt;grin&gt;&lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: welcome Delilah</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Ladies and gentlemen...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: welcome&lt;bow&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: may I run first a macro with our concenrs?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): let me say a few words.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Yes, KF, go ahead.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: New NRW price is $9.95/6 months - Dreamscape remains at $19.95/month</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: !!!!! &gt; The Dreamscape membership fee will be soon 12 (TWELVE) times as much as in NRW</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: Many fellow avatars will leave from here to NRW &lt;sigh&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: We say: DON&#039;T LEAVE, this will only cause the Dreamscape to be closed down soon!</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: STAY and show your strong support for the Dreamscape by showing a BLACK CANDLE on the streets!</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: We want the DS fees to be lowered at least to a maximum of 2 times the NRW fees!</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: &lt;bow&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): First, let me assure you all</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): that we have not forgotten DS.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): As posted in the forum</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we have alternatives that we are looking at</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): for DreamScape, however</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we don&#039;t have final details at this time.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): It is not our intent to close or drive away our DS members.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We realize the new pricing for VZones indirectly affects the membership here.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: Will lower prices be coming?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Do those possible alternatives include a reduction in price?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): It is a possibility</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): and a likelihood, however</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): I cannot give details</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: ghosts ask if alternatives include merging dS and NRW</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): and I cannot assure you one way or the other.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Gloree...the software would not support a merger</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Exactly</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: ok, that answers that</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: it was the DS that supported NRW</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: and made it possible</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: it was US who helped the NRW</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: now we would expect to have the NRW in reverse help US as well</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: eg. in terms of lowering prices from revenues</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Guys, I understand you&#039;re upset.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Michael &lt;bow&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: Michael&lt;grin&gt;&lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Welcome Michael&lt;bow&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: &lt;bow&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: Michael&lt;bow&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: Michael&lt;bow&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): In our letter</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we indicated that we would be scheduling town meetings</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): to address all of these concerns</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: a difference of TWELVE times is too much</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we also indicated that we were examining</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): alternatives for DS.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: how would a new member even _consider_ to come here</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We don&#039;t have answers to all of your questions right now</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: when heshe had to pay TWELVE times as much?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: I hafta agree w/ KF on that&lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): This is why we are looking into options that</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: I mean is it not double as much or 4 times as much</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: 12 times</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: 12</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: I think we all agree and know the answer , KF</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): allow us to lower the DS pricing plan.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: how many KF?..&lt;g&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Yes, I think we&#039;re clear on the numbers, KF.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): You have made your point, regarding the price.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: Any idea when we might have a change?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We can&#039;t give you details at this point.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: my point is not the price but the concern...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: that people will LEAVE and no new ones will come</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Until we have a final plan, if we suggest what it might be</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: and, in turn, forces you to CLOSE the DS</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: and DS is nothing without avies</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: fro economic reasons</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): there leaves room for misunderstandings</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we are not looking to close the DS</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We are not trying to force DS members into VZones.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): They are different worlds</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): with different cultures</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): with different directions.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: but with a 12 times rpice differnece you DO that</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: price difference</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: maybe it won&#039;t be for long KF</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): The possibility for partnerships and advertising</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): Someone is asking me why the price can be done for NRW and not for DS/</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): was introduced here a while back.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): It is because NRW has commercial ads and such.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): It was not graciously accepted</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): by any stretch of the imagination.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: Michael, we both know that us was the DS who made NRW possible</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: it is not expected to muuch to have NRW now help US as well</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): and it is NRW that kept DS alive in the past 12 months.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: maybe it&#039;s time to rethink that</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We have already said time and again</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: how so?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): that we have alternatives in mind</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): for DS.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: well...if NWR kept DS alive</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): However, we can&#039;t and won&#039;t be able to disclose those details at this point.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: there is something wrong someplace</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: I think</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: it is one company and one product &lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: I agree</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: and if it is seperated, that would justify different pricings...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): It&#039;s is one company with 2 products.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Two separate memberships</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: but then the world could be run seperately also</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: I, for one, am willing to give them time for DS. Michael said we would have new items soon..and we do. Why not give hima and Delilah the benefit of the doubt this time?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: I will</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: well, I sure am not moving</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: my feet are stuck here</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: I wont either...YET!</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: I refuse to leave</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We don&#039;t want you all to give up the dream.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We can&#039;t stress that enough.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): I can and will tell you all</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: would hafta pry me a way with a crowbar</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): that of all the flack Michael has taken in these past weeks</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: As long as they continue in to progress...I will stay.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): you can thank him for much of the consideration</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): that has gone into keeping it alive.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: I do have to admit that the price situation is a bit unnerving though.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): There is much behind the scenes that is not clear to our membership.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We can understand the upset regarding the pricing.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): A year ago, as a member, I would have been upset too.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: I can understand the advertises are paying the worlds</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): But we have come a long way from $300 CS bills.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: but - there are members here as well</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): The company has continued to move ahead.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: and those members make the world</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): It isn&#039;t always at the pace we&#039;d like it to be.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: without members, no need for advertises</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): However, each change, each addition</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): is for the betterment of the community.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): When you examine the past, you can see this.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): I have been a member of DS for 4 years</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): and I paid $300 a month to CompuServe.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Don&#039;t forget your roots, we haven&#039;t</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: and we might get lower prices soon</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: WOW</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): and we are focused on driving ahead.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Have some faith, please.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: I have no idea about that cuz I wasn&#039;t here</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Are you married Delilah?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: well I do ... nearly cost me the farm</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): I know to our newer members that isn&#039;t a valid concern</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: I wish I could afford 300/month..LOL</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): lol, gloree</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): No, she&#039;s available. &lt;blink, blink&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: ummmmm yes it is</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): &lt;nudge&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: ROFL</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): There is so much history of the DS</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Michael and I, regardless of the involvement you see</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: I know I have read most of it</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): are part of that</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): and we do support it</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): and have worked furiously</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): for our members here</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: if you want to ask question, please ask anyone of us and we will ask it out loud</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: yes&lt;bow&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): OK</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: ESP I mean &lt;react&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): let me clarify something</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: any clue of a time line? weeks? months?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): or let me try</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: are you raising prices for CC?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: sorry had to ask</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: no CC will be cheaper</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): VZones (NRW/CC)</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: Nope</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: I won&#039;t say this, sw &lt;react&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): is a commercial based service</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): our partnerships</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): and advertisers</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: ok..........I have another question, but I dont&#039; want to ask</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair9">Marjolein: i want to know now&lt;jump&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): provided a great deal of income for our company</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: There is a question to Michael:</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: I know that EG, but I didn&#039;t know if was the same for both cc and nrw</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: Why do you advertise on your avatar for the V-Zones in _here_</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): The partnerships are based in VZones</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: when you support the DS so much?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): It is the URL of the company.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: a good question</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): there... KF... I can&#039;t explain</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: why not go through delphi you can get in to cc for free&lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: ok I have to ask</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): If you look at the site, you will find Dreamscape information as well.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: This may be a really stupid question</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): OK, we will schedule a town meeting</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: what is a V-Zone?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): to take questions and explanations</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: I think that would help.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: but we have 63 ghosts right here now...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: We, and you, could prepare better.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: let&#039;s have more questions right now &lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: oh ok Thanks Dae</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Yes, and I could possibly finish an explanation</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): which I hoped was of interest.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: for others that don&#039;t know V-Zones is Virtural Zones</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair9">Marjolein: oh&lt;jump&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: go ahead</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: partnerships brought money ...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: We do much appreciate you came here, Delilah</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair7">Mary J: yes we do</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: Am I understandding you correctly??</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair9">Marjolein: lol</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: if we would get advertisement into DS we would have to pay less</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: ?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: and our charges would be similiar to NWR new rates??</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): When Fujitsu tried this (remember match.com?), the</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): Dreamscape community was rather hositle towards this attempt.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: Maybe there are better partners</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: and other subtle ways to advertise</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: like the book store</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: since I got so many questions:</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: &lt;macro&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: New NRW price is $9.95/6 months - Dreamscape remains at $19.95/month</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: !!!!! &gt; The Dreamscape membership fee will be soon 12 (TWELVE) times as much as in NRW</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: I dont have a problem w/ locales like the B and N library&lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: Many fellow avatars will leave from here to NRW &lt;sigh&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: We say: DON&#039;T LEAVE, this will only cause the Dreamscape to be closed down soon!</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: STAY and show your strong support for the Dreamscape by showing a BLACK CANDLE on the streets!</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: We want the DS fees to be lowered at least to a maximum of 2 times the NRW fees!</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: was ever a vote done to see how many avies were against or for advertisement in DS</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: Delilah is here to address these concerns</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): And Michael.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): I&#039;ll take a few questions</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): and then we will schedule a town meeting to discuss this further</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): VZones (NRW) is a relatively new world.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): DS is 4 years old.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: please ESP questions to me or gloree</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): There are new locales</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): and items in VZones</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: or anyone else down here</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): because in the first years of DS</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we added new locales and items in DS</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): you cannot compare the two</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): or the rate of item/locale release</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: I take german questions also</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): one is a baby world</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): the other is established.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair9">Marjolein: dutch too?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): It is not a matter of slighting one or the other.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): To compare the number of locales and items in world</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): DS would far outweight VZones.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: that is correct</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: from my personal view</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): There are hundreds of unused locales in DS.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: &lt;not in the jungle &lt;gg&gt;&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): and millions of items locked away</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: chico asks: how can other 3D worlds offer cheaper memberships</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): I can answer questions about Avaterra worlds.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: comments from a couple ghosts: feeling of being a NRW ugly step child</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): I can&#039;t answer comparison questions to other worlds.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: I personally agree with you, Delilah on the items and locales</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: the number here is bigger</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Avaterra is completely independent of FSBA.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: KF, I think we need to give them time. I don&#039;t know how much...but..time&lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We are not a subsidiary, but a corporation of our own.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: ghosty is asking, if you don&#039;t convert, you don&#039;t get the discount???</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: and is the deadline still Oct. 1 ??</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: but the clock is ticking, gloree, from the 16th on, the diffrence is up</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): For VZones, yes.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): You can wait to convert until 10/1</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: and who will come to join US then?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): but you won&#039;t get the new pricing</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): until conversion.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): For VZones</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): IF there is a pricing change for DS</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we will let you all know as soon as we do.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Give us a few weeks.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: ghost asks why NRW rates were lowered first</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Pogs, it has gotten better.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: So the new pricing wil lcome into effect for NRW on 1st October?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Because VZones have partnerships</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): September, 15th</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): No, new pricing in VZones is 9/15.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: ghost: are you going to lower our number of avies?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): No</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): If you do not log out of world prior to converting</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: So, from the 16th Sep on, we will have to compete with a world that is 12 times cheaper</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): if you don&#039;t cancel your iBill account</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): prior to converting</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): then yes, you do get a delay</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): however the techs have been manually converting those that have not followed the steps.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: nice techies</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): OK, folks -- I shouldn&#039;t say this, but we need you to support us. We are</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): VZones and DS are not in competition with each other.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): very aware of your frustration, and we understand how you feel -- we do</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: Michael, we would need support either &lt;sigh&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): 10/1 Night Rain.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): get your point, entirely. We said we are looking into options that</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): would allow the company to lower the price for Dreamscape too. But we</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): cannot disclosure any details at this time. We just cannot.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: what about $19.95/6months for NRW and $9.95 for the DS/month</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): I know it is asking for much in this situation, but we ask you to have</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: that would be a start</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: if you answered this before I missed it? any clue of a time line ... we talking weeks, months?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): some faith in us. So far, this world management has not lied to you, have we?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): weeks at best</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Umm...not to me yet&lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: Wert says:</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: nope</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): If we had not ideas, and no intensions to help you,</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: the people are not worried about the prices...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: ghosty is asking why does it states Avaterra .com on our statements, but it gives us an Ibill number ??</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: but about a possible close down of the DS</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): then we would not be here. Delilah and I grew up in Dreamscape,</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: I think this as well</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): we were once regular members of this very world - just like you.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): It is OUR home as well.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We are NOT seeking to close the DS.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): so give us some credit.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: we do</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: but we still worry</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): The billing statement issue is being handled.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: ghost: will you do a town meeting at a good time for euros too?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): There was no billing in July, therefore you saw 2 billings on August.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: or 2 town meetings?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Ladies and gentlemen</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: yes, from what ghosts are ESPing I see they are all still worried</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we are here to discuss the pricing</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): not all these other issues, we will address these at a town meeting</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): I would prefer one - on the weekend.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: yes, only price issues today please</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Wert, we know, and we are trying to come up with an alternative to maintain that.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: plesase ESP me any questions</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We do know how this has affected everyone</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: or others that are down here, we will ask it out loud then</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we are working for a good alternative</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): the pricing will not be the same</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): as VZones</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Does anyone have a reason why we should *not* give Delilah and Michael a &#039;few&#039; weeks to give us answers?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): but we hope to give you some good news in the next few weeks</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: latecomer update: There is community concern because NRW prices are dropping to $9.95 for 6 months ... but Delilah and Michael assure us alternatives for lower prices are being worked on for DS too. BUt they cannot release details.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: yes, because there is a 16th Sep coming up</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): I will address billing issues, statement issues, etc.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): at the town meeting, please.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: That will not close us down though KF</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: sure, we can survive a few weeks</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: you do not risk it patty</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Hang in there, dreamers...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): don&#039;t give up.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: tolearn that after a few weeks we lost much of the substance?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We haven&#039;t.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: no date set, Phalanx</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: our position then would be even weaker, gloree &lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): So would we Wert &lt;bow&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: I do not see us as a sinking ship though KF&lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We believe it will.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: I believe communication is a very important factor with all our problems</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We would love to share with everyone the alternatives</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): but we can&#039;t at this point.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: yes, I am sure many of us will stay here</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: even with higher prices</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: but how long can we survive without NEW members coming?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: yes Lady M...9.95/6 months</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: LOL J</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): There have been a few ideas passed around</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: concern over NRW price lowering to $9.95 for 6 months..... Del and M assure we willget lower rates soon . they are working on it</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): for membership advertising</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: if after a few weeks there had been a boost of new members to NRW</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we&#039;re looking into these</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: and none in here</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: KF....I believe DS still offers a better product than NRW...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: wtg Phalanx ... he says he&#039;s sticking ... me too</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: we are more established...and friendlier</span></p>
<p><span class="esp">&lt;ESP from Mary J: I&#039;m staying&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: and worth a little more at this time...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: we know that, gloree</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Wwwwwait....</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): back up</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: butwill NEW people know that?</span></p>
<p><span class="esp">&lt;ESP from Mary J: like I said they would have to pry me away with a crowbar&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="esp">&lt;ESP from cyndi-uk1: no way ill leave DS!!!!!!!&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="esp">&lt;ESP from Phalanx: and this is the truth....i&#039;ve seen this place grow, it&#039;s a part of me, i ain&#039;t giving it up&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Stop a moment please.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: that is Soleil speaking KF, nto me</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: oh, sorry: Soleil</span></p>
<p><span class="esp">&lt;ESP from Digger: i just had to choose which world to pay for ,..,. picked this one .. if I had known the new prices, I probably would not have ..&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Del and M have not assured you will get lower rates soon, we are trying to assure you that we are TRYING to get lower rates, and will know in the next few weeks.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: They are working on a plan, Digger ... need a few weeks</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We are working on it</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: ok</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: corrected</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): but we cannot promise it will happen</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: see - let&#039;s say the NRW gets 1000 new members next month due to the lower prices</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: and DS will gain none at all</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we can promise we are actively trying.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): And it looks good</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): but no guarantee at this point.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: what wouls YOU decide if you had to decide on the products?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): KF, your points are valid</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: that&#039;s sort of a worst of the worst KF</span></p>
<p><span class="esp">&lt;ESP from Phalanx: arrived even&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): I wish I have a good argument to support it</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: KF..do you know that they (D and M) are not actively trying to get members for DS?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: this is the _main_ point &lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): but I don&#039;t.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: There may be a price difference..but DS (imho) is a better product.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: and worth more...maybe not 12x..but still..more</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: yes, I support a prce difference</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: they have asked us for time...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: (personally)</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: Newcomer update: Community concern over NRW prices lowered to $9.95 for 6 months .. Del and Michael are working on alternatives that may lower DS prices too, but it will take weeks to finalize</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: and I stand up for that</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: they need that...and i think we owe it to them</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: but it is too high of a difference now to atttract newcomers</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Mary J....do you think Del and m would get rid of their own home so soon?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): No way</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): I have too much love and history here.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: see&lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: well, they stated it is a business matter</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: they will answer billing questions at a town meeting scheduled soon</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Yes SPiderwoman..I am Skinner also</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: and as far as I know ... no, LB</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Perhaps it is a business matter, but Michael and I have stood up for it</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): on a business and personal level.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We do believe in our members and the DS.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Hello J&lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: cool</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: we _do_ hope that your position is good enough to conitue that &lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: continue</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: What about Avaterra at large</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: do they love us too?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: everything is a business matter, I think us oldies in here understand that</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Hiya PC&lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We have to go with the changes presented to us, but we also do the best to maintain a hapy balance.</span></p>
<p><span class="esp">&lt;ESP from Journalist: this is not about love &lt;shrug&gt;this is about money &lt;sigh&gt;&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: true, J</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We thank those of you who support the willingness</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): to pay the price to keep the Dream alive</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): and to those who are worried</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: I hope a solution can be found really soon</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we are working on a solution.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: since time is running out &lt;sigh&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: I am sure we can survive a few weeks</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: months might be a bigger problem</span></p>
<p><span class="esp">&lt;ESP from cyndi-uk1: maybe we need an airport in DS?to get visitors in from nrw ?&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: we need hope</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: yes, gloree</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Michael is a pushy kitty, he won&#039;t give up.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Yes dollbaby....NRW has lowered their price to 9.95 for 6 months</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: cool&lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: even more than a very few weeks will be too much &lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): He&#039;ll also push to get the information out asap, when we can.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: that is less than 20/year</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: I agree KF</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): There are certain issues behind the scenes, we cannot divulge.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: but as long we keep trying</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: any more questions? please ESP me</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: I think there maybe is hope for all us in here</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: We must all remember..that we cannot see the &#039;big&#039; picture..</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: I know we will all stand up as a single avatar &lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: there are probably many things going on that we are not aware of (I hope)</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: I agree Mideon ... I am a Kymerite</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): You all have the commitment of both Michael and I that we will be here</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): that we have not given up on you</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Put yourself in their (del and M) positions</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): that we will hear your concerns</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): Ghosties, is Saturday 1:00 PM WAT a good time for a town meeting?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: They cannot give out &#039;sensitive&#039; info</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: we have an event SAturday</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: but maybe they can move a game</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): Sunday perhaps?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: go with either</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: the concerned of us will be there</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: what about 12:00 noon WAT?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair9">Marjolein: saterday</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: this is a time most avatars can be here</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Thanks GH</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: sure capt</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: read the Virtual planet tomorrow</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: yep..so a lot will come to the town meeting because they are in world for the games</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: I know EG</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: no sly nothing new said</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: I will get back to hiding tokens after this discussion&lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: it&#039;s the evolving world&lt;sigh&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: &lt;bow&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: I think gloree will do a compilation in the vplanet</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: will do</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: http://vplanet.kymer.net/</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: thank you all for your patience</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): Delilah ... Saturday or Sunday?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): Both days work for me.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Either one is ok for me.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: when is the event?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Ladies and gentlemen, we don&#039;t need to petition Avaterra</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: both days</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: this weekend KF</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): we do know the concerns</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: getting votes for SAturday</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: yellow flag is up</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): our management is aware</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): If there is an event on both days,</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: maybe the event host can shift one game then</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): then lets say Saturday.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: Saturday</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): so the working Europeans can stay up ...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: noon? or 1?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: SAT 12 noon WAT?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Whichever works best.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Yes Mary, Pythia is good.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: ROFL Wert</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): 1pm is better for the UK folks.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): She has been around, just not visible.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: Wert has the answer to all our problems..and it will only cost us 1 fish &lt;g&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: lol</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): lol Wert</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): noon is in the expensive phone time ...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: and old fish or a fresh one Wert??</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: 12 noon WAT, Michael</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: not 12 noon UK time</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: don&#039;t bring a stinky fish here</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): Yes, 8pm UK tike (noon WAT) is expensive for</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): the UK folks ..</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair6">Soleil: I think Wert is sniffin the fish on my hat &lt;g&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: oh, I see</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): cheap time starts at 1pm WAT (9pm UK) ...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): or so the ghosties tell me. &lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: yes, looks good to me</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: Saturday at 1 then? does that miss the fuzzie hunt.. yes it does I think</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): so lets do it at 1:00 PM WAT ... 9:00 PM UK, 22:00 German time...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): this Saturday.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: 1pm WAT = PST = 4pm EST = 2100 UK time = 22:00 German</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): 3:00 PM Central ... 4:00 PM Eastern ...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: fuzzie hunt 9 to 11 WAT like always</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: coming saturday</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: and one later</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: will miss it Mikael</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: where is the meeting to be held?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: yes, 2:00 PM Mountain &lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Bring your questions, we will try to do it in a more organized manner. IF you&#039;d like to presend your questions/concerns</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: 11am Hawaii</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): should we increase the amount of fuzzies for Saturday&#039;s hunt?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): you can do so to michael@avaterra.com and delilah@avaterra.com</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: please no</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): &lt;g&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: yes</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: depends on their name &lt;eg&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): Not trying to distract you ... but ... hey .. um ...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: so we are in a good mood for the townmeeting</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): it was worth a try &lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: &lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: lol</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): lol</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: where will it be?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: and a kittiekat green fuzzie is a great Idea</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: Michael</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Oh lets do it some place peaceful &lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: if you would ask me</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: &lt;jump&gt;&lt;jump&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: morpheus idol?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): peaceful? Lets do it in the void. &lt;g&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): lol</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: lol noooo</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair9">Marjolein: yes&lt;jump&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: would we all fit in the void ??</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We&#039;ll announce the location in the forum and in the paper</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): give us some time to think it out &lt;g&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: I don&#039;t think so</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: can it handle all these cats??</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair9">Marjolein: why not&lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: well, ok, but article going up soon&lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): No Mary &lt;g&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: void over load??</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: we all get coffee and cake in the void</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): Phalanx, yes, I know -- they are one of Avaterra&#039;s partners.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): We can always do a broadcast message as well, when/where we are about to meet.</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: k</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Fish?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: plus one fuzzie</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair9">Marjolein: only one?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): Ok, personally, I like the temple ...</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): I know I&#039;m a cat.. but... Fish?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: don&#039;t be greedy</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair9">Marjolein: lol</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: in front of main temple doors?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair9">Marjolein: ok&lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: one for everyone</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: that makes sense</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): maybe at the main entrance ...?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: I guess wert is ESPing you &lt;eg&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: thats plenty</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): Just let me know where</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: he only talk about fishes &lt;shrug&gt;&lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): &lt;g&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): Me?</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): see</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): that&#039;s where they get the rumors</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair3">Kaiserfuchs: hehe, Wert, I just thougt it &lt;g&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: well...we have been serious all along</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): get your snout of my ear &lt;shrug&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): You can read the paper just like I do. ;)</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair2">Spiderwoman: so lets have some few minutes of fun</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair8">Michael (World Manager): &lt;she does read it&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair5">gloree: good&lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
<p><span class="spoken wacolorpair12">Delilah (World Events Manager): &lt;grin&gt;</span></p>
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It seems to me, that VZones can offer such lower rates through the partnerships and advertising that their worlds utilize.  Would we accept such partnerships in the Dreamscape?  Such low rates could indeed bring a flood of newbies to our shores.  Are we ready for the change in culture that this would bring?  We have in front of us yet another time that could bring drastic change.  But perhaps we have some margin of time to think about what we would really like and plan for that.  Also, perhaps we have time to let our feelings be known to the management.  It is time to think carefully and speak out wisely.