WorldsAway Acolyte Meeting - August 18th, 1995
This was the first ever Dreamscape and WorldsAway Acolyte meeting. Dan Kuschner in this conversation is Oracle Teresias and JD David is Oracle Vaserius.
R 21 : *SYSTEM* | Switching to Acolytes & Oracles Acolyte Lynx | ; D | Greetings JW : ) JD David | Greeting, all! JWFriendly | Re: Lynx! :) Acolyte Lynx | Greetings : ) Tulip | Howdy!!! Dan Kuschner | Greetings! JWFriendly | Hiya Vaserius! :) Marianne G/Serena | WoW! More people finally :D JWFriendly | Hiya Teresias! Dan Kuschner | I have a favor to ask of someone who will be | here the whole time... Acolyte Lynx | LOL Marianne ; ) | Hi Ya Teresias : ) | Hmm i can only stay till 5pm PDT : / JWFriendly | You need someone to log? I'd be happy to | log. :) Dan Kuschner | Vaserius and I may have to drop in and out so | could someone. | log the entire session as a back up? | Great, JW. Upload it after it is done. JD David | Yes, JW, Thanks! JWFriendly | No problem. :) Dan Kuschner | Let's wait a little longer for some people to | show up. Acolyte Lynx | ok : D | So hows is everyone? ; D Libra | Hi? JWFriendly | Hiya Libra! :) Tulip | Multi-tasking is so much fun! Acolyte Lynx | Greetings Libra : ) Libra | Great..Am I late? Tulip | Hi Libra! Acolyte Lynx | LOL Tulip ; D Dan Kuschner | We will wait a few more minutes. Libra | Did Chameleon make it back from her | veterinary assist? JD David | I don't think so... | Does anyone know if there are any Acolytes in | the world? | You're all in trouble for not being on duty! Marianne G/Serena | Sorry, have not been inworld yet tonight Tulip | lol! Acolyte Lynx | dont know havent been in today..tried this | morning but couldnt get in : / Milen | HellO/ Libra | We all gave up since the oracles had gone | home... Dan Kuschner | I am on duty... Acolyte Lynx | Greetings Milen! Tulip | Hi Milen JD David | Hello, Milen! Data | Hello all Milen | What's going on? JWFriendly | Howdy Millen! :) Tulip | Dan.. you are an oracle. You have talents to | be in two places at once. Milen | <confused look> Acolyte Lynx | Greetings Data! Tulip | Hi Data! JWFriendly | We are waiting to start. :) Marianne G/Serena | I thought that was a mothers talent :D JD David | Hello, Data! Marianne G/Serena | You learn something new every day Acolyte Lynx | LOL Marianne ; ) JWFriendly | Heya Data! :) Libra | Hiya D,M! Tulip | Marianne, mothers have eyes behind their | heads... like some of the Avatar heads do. Data | Good to see the group here! <G> Acolyte Lynx | LOL! Libra | JD you're Vaz, and Dan is Ter, right? JD David | OK, let's "officially" start our first | meeting! | Yes, I am Vaserius. JWFriendly | :::gavel slams::: Marianne G/Serena | OUCH! you hit my finger! Acolyte Lynx | LOL!! ; D JWFriendly | :x Data | We are a lively group, aren't we? Acolyte Lynx | but of course ; ) JD David | Yup. And Dan is Teresias. Marianne G/Serena | ;;grabbing gavel from JW;; Libra | What a great meeing. Pass the Mushroom Brandy! Tulip | lol! JD David | So everyone knows, please don't use these CIS | ids (the | Oracles', that is) outside the Acolyte/Oracle | areas. Acolyte Lynx | Ok! Data | Understood. JD David | Our first topic is being on duty. | Hopefully, everyone has downloaded the blank | schedule | Teresias uploaded. If you haven't be sure to | do so after this | meeting. Data | You already should have mine. Acolyte Lynx | already sent both of mine! ; D Dan Kuschner | Thank you to those who have already sent them. | (Lynx, there was a prob with one check your | mail) | Also, I fixed the PDT to EDT conversions. Acolyte Lynx | oh? ok will do! JD David | We'd like to everyone to be on duty 4 to 6 | hours per week. | Does that sound resonable to everyone? | Of course, more is fine with us! :) JWFriendly | Yep, sure does. :) Tulip | Dan, would you mind including CST too? Acolyte Lynx | thats fine..i can be on more if needed ; ) Data | Fair to me, you can use me more if you need | to. Tulip | Six is fine. Milen | Yep. | I'm almost always spending my time helping | someone... Marianne G/Serena | No problem for me Milen | ...and I'm on for much more than six a week. Acolyte Lynx | i was think around say 10-15 hours a week <g> | ; ) | thinking ; ) Tulip | Right now, 4 a day has been possible, at | times. Dan Kuschner | I will be further refining the blank schedule. Data | I have a question. Once a schedule is | established can we still come on duty outside | of those | scheduled hours? Libra | I had some trouble figuring out why the 9:00 | PM PDT boxes did not extend through all | the days... Data | as well. Dan Kuschner | One at a time... | First libra 'cause it's quick. | Libra, check your mail. There was a problem | somewhere. | Data, YES you may spend more hours on duty. | Let's clarify that: Data | <G> JWFriendly | ((Maybe we should have protocol? ! = for a | comment, ?= | question.. It'll help us stay on track. :)) Dan Kuschner | We will now require 4/hrs per week on the | schedule. | That means you must be on duty during those 4 | hours. | Any other time you wish to go on duty | outside... | the schedule, you will get credit for. | And are encouraged to do so. Marianne G/Serena | ? Dan Kuschner | Yes, Serena? Libra | Crashed. Sorry. Marianne G/Serena | Events, is it possible then to have your four | hours on | duty at times OTHER then when you are hosting | events, so when you are hosting... | events, you can do so letting the other | Acolytes take | care of the paging? | In other words, hosting them off duty? Dan Kuschner | Hosting events will need to be done off the | required schedule | Will will come up with a compensation plan... | to make up for the time you are doing an | Official Event (sponsered by | us)... | If you host an event on your own, it will | need to be done off the | schedule. | Does that sound fair? JWFriendly | Yep, sure does. :) Data | Yes. Marianne G/Serena | Yes, thank you :D Dan Kuschner | I know it's not totally clear, but what makes | it confusing right now is... | the big CIS price change. Tulip | It sounds fair. However, can we clarify what | are the parameters for an Official Event? Dan Kuschner | We have not figured out all the ramifications | yet. Acolyte Lynx | Greetings Snaggles! Dan Kuschner | On to Tulip's question: Tulip | Hi Snaggles! Snaggles | Heya Lynx and all! | <----Sabertooth Marianne G/Serena | Hey Saber Acolyte Lynx | nice name there saber ; ) Marianne G/Serena | Is his cuddle name :D Data | Is that your new forum name? Snaggles | Keeps me from getting too many interruptions. | ;-D Data | Sabertooth Dan Kuschner | An Official Event: Acolyte Lynx | be back in a flash ; D Dan Kuschner | 1) Must be announced in the forum. | 2) Announced by an Acolyte or Oracle | 3) Oracles are notified that the event is | taking place. | 4) Prizes are items Avatars can't otherwise | get (right now chests). JD David | Any other ideas? Milen | Why must the prize the special for the event | to be official? Tulip | Thanks for the clarification Dan. Milen | (BE special, sorry) JD David | Right now, | it's because all of the other items are | generally available to | everyone. In the future, when there are a | greater number of | objects, I suppose they don't have to be | unique or special... | It's also a way to set the event apart from | other events. Milen | Okay! Just curious! Marianne G/Serena | ? Acolyte Lynx | Back ; ) Milen | "?"? JD David | Yes, Marianne? | Oops, Serena! Marianne G/Serena | Either will do, I'm multi personal :D | Two, first, how do we get these special | prizes? And, | what about Weekly events | Events we'd like to hold weekly to get them | us to | being at the same time/place etc JD David | (Milen--?=question, !=comment) | Serena: That's our next topic: | The Oracles can give the Acolytes the prizes. | We have to | create them. Marianne G/Serena | make us= use Milen | ? Tulip | 2 ?'s Milen | !: No, just one. Tulip | I have two. Milen | Oh! Sorry! <grin> Tulip | ! :) JD David | Umm, just a second, Teresias is having a | problem--his answer | got dropped. Acolyte Lynx | ! Ack! : ( Marianne G/Serena | ;;watching out for falling answers;; Dan Kuschner | Sorry, I dropped. | Let me answer Serena's. | Weekly Events will be considered Official | Events. Libra | Oracle droppings, the call them... JWFriendly | Que = Serena (floor), Milen, Tulip (2 ?) Dan Kuschner | Thank you. | Serena, does that answer your question? JD David | (I have to step out for a second, everyone, | be right back) Dan Kuschner | I am about to take that as a yes.... Marianne G/Serena | Yes, thank you, specially since VIQ and I | have some | in the planning :D Dan Kuschner | Okay, Milen? Milen | Okay, we know that clients will be updated | automatically... | ...while on-line. But... | ...will this be necessary any time a new | knick-knack is introduced? | Like something that has different graphics, | but no special function? | Wait, I'm not expressing myself very well. | Let me put it this way: | What is an item is created for, like, one | event only... | ...and then that item is somehow removed from | the world. | Will the graphics and programming for that | item remain in everyone's | clients forever, or will it delete itself? Dan Kuschner | ! | We have no plans at this time to have a one | time item. Milen | Okay! Dan Kuschner | There are no plans to remove anything from | the clients. | Even the most unique objects will be in | everyone's clients so.. | they can see them. | This does mean that the resources will grow, | but we are working on | compression and staggering remote updates. | Now, Tulip? Tulip | 1. Are there any smaller prizes than the | chests? Such as for games that allow | smaller winnings to a greater amount of | people? Dan Kuschner | ! | We are working on that. | It is due to a lack of art that we don't have | many items to give away. | We are also planning on allowign a few unique | heads out as prizes. | But we would like to limit them to very | special events. Tulip | Great!2. How can I purchase a chest for my | Acolyte Avatar to keep things in? | ! Sorry.. entered too quickly. Dan Kuschner | For example, if you guys plan a big game for | the load test, | we might dig up one or two heads for it. Acolyte Lynx | ! cool..lets get something planned ; ) Dan Kuschner | So give us a plan in the forum section or | later here. | Now. Tulip Q2: | It might be a little touchy right now. Marianne G/Serena | ;;the big dump contest!;; Dan Kuschner | If we give or sell you chests, then you are | getting preferential treatment. | I understand that of all the people in the | world | Acolytes could really use them, but ... | there is a catch: | The only way you can put into/get from a | chest is to put | the chest on the ground. | That means another Avatar could swipe the | chest. | If we had a secure area for you to go to, I | would feel better about it. | Or if we had "pouches" which would allow you | to work with them in your hand. Marianne G/Serena | Suppose stun guns are not developed yet? Tulip | ! I understand. Dan Kuschner | But with that information, if you need one | for your own use. Tulip | ! Ack.. stun guns?? Dan Kuschner | to stash personal stuff in and keep prizes in | your | pockets AND you don't flash the chest at too | many people. | I think we can let you have chests. | Sound fair? Tulip | !Thank you! Yes! JWFriendly | Yes, thanks! :) Data | Yes, thanks. Dan Kuschner | Great. Marianne G/Serena | Yes :D Course, without changing rooms or | private | rooms, hard to not flash Dan Kuschner | That is why they shouldn't be used for | stashing prizes (a public JD David | (sorry everyone, I'm back) Dan Kuschner | thing) or used when too many people are | around. | It's like the teleport address. Acolyte Lynx | ! but a chest would be great for a | head/spider/ect hunt tho! Snaggles | ? Tulip | !There are certain spots where people do not | usually congregate. Some of the fountains | are fairly empty. Dan Kuschner | We don't want to forbid you, but we have to | be careful about how it is used. JWFriendly | Que = Tulip (!) , Snaggles (?) | ! Dan Kuschner | Does everyone at least understand the | problems? Acolyte Lynx | oh i understand them! Libra | Yes Snaggles | Yep. Tulip | !yes Dan Kuschner | Then we trust you to use your good judgement | if you have a chest. Data | Yes. It is only temporary until the Acolyte | area is secured, right? Marianne G/Serena | yep Dan Kuschner | (I must leave for a time) JD David | Serena: You had a comment about stun | guns--that they aren't in | the world? | That's true, they haven't been developed yet. | Snaggles, you had a questions? Snaggles | To get these chests we should ask you inworld | for one or will | you just give us each one? Acolyte Lynx | ! ack gotta go in 5 or so minutes : ( Tulip | Thanks Dan JD David | If you need one, just ask. Snaggles | Okay. Libra | ? JD David | Yes, Libra? Libra | Lot of questions about the next release. Any | advances on that? What should we tell | Avatars? JD David | Ooo, that's a biggie. That's where I had to | leave to--a build | meeting for the next release. | The current plan is for the next release to | be available next | Friday. The server will be down Thursday. | This is, of course, if the build goes well | tonight and tomorrow. | That is confidential. This is what you can | tell avatars: Acolyte Lynx | ! well thanks for the meeting..Giotta get to | work now : ( Later all and See ya | tomarrow at #pm PDT right? ; D | er# = 3 ; ) JD David | :) Thanks for being here, Lynx! Snaggles | See ya Lynx! <F7> Data | Bye Lynx JWFriendly | See ya, Lynx :) :waving:: Tulip | Bye Lynx! Libra | Vaz, I think I missed that? Marianne G/Serena | Night lynx will mail you :D JWFriendly | I'd just like to ask y'all to please wait to | be called on before | typing your comments/questions to screen.. | That way | nobody skips over you and you get full | attention to ask your | questions or voice comments. ;) Thanks! JD David | OK, just a second... Hunter Brown, SysOp | okay | (just kiding) JD David | Here's what you can tell avatars: | CT is planning to make the next release | available next Friday, | assuming no problems with the release. | This release will contain a lot more artwork | (enough to open | the remaining interiors), a substantial | increase in performance, | memory leak fixes, | However, it will still be a 16 meg RAM | product. | Also, tell then to keep an eye out for more | information in the | forum about future schedules for release. | One thing that isn't clear to people is that | the 1.0 release isn't | the end--we will be constantly updated the | product until it | matches the demo (at least). | Does that answer your question, Libra? | Or does it create more questions? :) Libra | Great. Thanks. I have to leave also (skip the | byes.) See y'all | inworld. Data | ? JD David | Goodbye, Libra, thanks for coming. Milen | ? JD David | Yes, Data? Data | Can we arrange for a copy of the minutes of | these meetings to be | posetd in | the O & A section. I have to be out of pocket | next week | And a few more in september. | ? JD David | Definately. JWFriendly is logging, as are | Teresias and I. We'll | put them all up. | OK, Milen had a question, and then back to | Data. Milen | Well... | ...earlier you said that the server will be | down Thursday. | That's means the world will be off-line, | correct? | But then you said that that was confidential. JD David | Yes. Milen | You don't want us to tell anyone about that?! JD David | Well, it's only confidential in that it | hasn't been announced yet, | and I don't want to tell everyone that until | we know for sure. | As soon as we know for sure, we'll announce | it, definately! Milen | Oh! Okay... sorry for the confusion! | I'm a littly literal sometimes. | (LITTLE, I mean.) JD David | It won't be a secret, it's just a heads-up. | Data? Marianne G/Serena | ? Data | I was just ending the Question. I had forgot | to put a ? at the end to | let you know I was through, thanks though JD David | Oh, OK. Serena? Marianne G/Serena | Is there any immediate plans for changing | rooms, | seperate residences or lockers? JD David | Yes, I sent a message to our server | programmer about that very | issue today. Marianne G/Serena | In view of people needing a place to store | and sort | their items JWFriendly | ! Snaggles | ? JD David | We should be able to setup locales that allow | a definable | number of avatars and/or ghosts. | This would allow private rooms for 2, 3, etc. | avatars and no | ghosts. | Also, Turfs are at the top of the features | list along with | document and customizable colors. I *Think* | we may be able | to create lockers without new objects, but | I'll have to check on | that. | I'll let everyone know as soon as I find out | the status on those | things. | JW, you had a comment? JWFriendly | ?/! While you are sending suggestions to the | programmers | (and we are in beta) how about increasing | pocket size for | Acolytes? Is that possible? It would help a | great deal. JD David | OK, I'll send that along. I don't think the | pocket size is | arbitrary, but I'll check. JWFriendly | I was thinking of having the server recognie | Oracle/Acolyte | = increase pocket size (of course I'm not a | programmer) JD David | Snaggles? Snaggles | I was a bit late, have we covered Oil of | Okay? Will the problems | be worked out by the next release? JD David | (JW - that would be a bit down the road) | Ahhh, the Oil of Okay. Snaggles | ;-D JD David | If everything goes correctly with the build, | the Oil of Okay will | be a thing of the past. Snaggles | OIC? Milen | ! JD David | We should have avatar-customizable colors in | the next release. | (OIC?) Snaggles | OIC = Oh, I see, the ? means I didn't. Tulip | ! | oops? JD David | :::hangs head low in shame::: | OK, Milen, comment? JWFriendly | [Que = (?) Milen, Tulip Milen | JWFriendly suggested that ORacles and | acolytes be given a larger | pocket size... | ...I was just wondering, is we should get | bigger pockets, shouldn't | *everyone*? JWFriendly | ! JD David | (JW--you want to respond to that?) JWFriendly | The only I suggested such is that the | Acolytes are a select | few and that Acolytes are in need due to the | fact that Data | ! JWFriendly | we don't want to attract others because of | special items | (i.e. chests,e tc) that Acolytes receive. JD David | I think the restriction on pockets is a | restriction on all | containers--vendroids, chests, etc. So it is | a system-wide issue. | If it can be changed, I think it will. | So, if A & O pockets can be changed, | everyone's can be | changed. | OK, Tulip and the Data. Tulip | I take it the sublte reference to Oil of | Okay's | disappearance may mean a machine similar | to the ones in the library? If i may ask, | that is. Marianne G/Serena | Sorry, I have to go, or the people waiting to | take me | to dinner will kill me :D | Night all Snaggles | Nite Serena! JD David | Goodnight! | Tulip: Machine in the library? Tulip | There is a .jpg of a changing machine in one | of the libraries. | It changes clothes and heads. JD David | Oh, right (I thought you meant the in-world | Library!) Tulip | oh no! Don't have access to that yet! JD David | No, it won't be like that. It will be more | like spray cans. Tulip | Even though my Avatar is dying to read a | good book. | Thanks! I liked the machine in the .jpg JD David | The spraycans are the quick-fix. | Data, I think you're next? Data | I believe smaller pockets for avatars is | better, it sorta adds to the challenge! (what | to carry | and what to do away with, like real life) | while Acolytes have a different purpose in | the world | and need bigger pockets to assist others. JWFriendly | Exactly, and it wouldn't be as much stress on | the system. JD David | I think I agree with that. But, like I said, | it's not just a pocket | thing--it's system wide. I'll see what can | be done. JWFriendly | ! JD David | BTW, spread the word the Charlotte-N and Yul | Brenner will be | in the world changing colors from 3pm to 7pm | PDT. A | message will be posted in the forum, too. | Yes, JW? JWFriendly | LOL, what about that packrats? ;> (Thanks | for your | comment, Data.. That was the point I was | trying to make) | I guess that is where Turfs come into play! ;) JD David | Yup! | Maybe we should wrap this up...anyone else | have any immediate | questions or concerns? Milen | ? JD David | Yes, Milen? Milen | Something just occured to me: JWFriendly | ! Milen | there are probably no acolytes in world | *right now*. Tulip | ? Milen | That ought to be considered when planning | future conferences. | (I guess I really meant "!"... sorry.) JD David | I've been on duty, and so has Teresias. | But you're right about that...we'll have to | rotate these so we can | stagger who will miss them. | JW? JWFriendly | I would just like to suggest (to increase | Entertainment | offerings) that we begin posting on the | message | boards ideas for games, and if at all | possible, game plans.. | (how to play, rules, needs, etc) Milen | ! JWFriendly | I've been shying away from games because I | crash | wayyyyy too much during them. JD David | Definately. And we are going to try to make | a compendium of | them all. | OK, Tulip, and the Milen. | (then Milen) Tulip | I read about the Acolyte handbook. I | presume it will take a bit before being | published. Is there anything that we should | know right now?? | Proper procol etc. JD David | Right now, I think everyone is doing an | excellent job--so just | keep on doing it. One thing we should all be | on the lookout for | is future Acolytes. Be sure to encourage | those who are doing | it, and to recommend those you feel are ready. JWFriendly | ? Tulip | Thanks JD! :) JD David | Milen? Milen | Well... | ...I just wanted to say, in reference to that | game rule compilation... | ...I've already started work on one! | <beam> JD David | YaaaayyyY! Milen | I've been meaning to ask people about their | games. JD David | You Acolytes are just too good! :) Milen | If you wouldn't mind sending me a message | about your rules, I'd really | appreciate it. | <done> JD David | Sure thing, Milen. JW? JWFriendly | I may have missed this.. I was just wondering | when you | hope to have the Acolyte Antechamber secure | so that we | can start using it.. Next release? JD David | Next release, definately. | Sorry about that everyone. We blew it. :( | That bug bit us in an irritating place! JWFriendly | Naw, you have your hands full.. We understand | and we | know you are working on it. :) JD David | Anything else before we wrap it up? Tulip | ! JD David | Yes, Tulip? Tulip | Could we please receive a little bit more | notice about these conferences? Data | ! JWFriendly | ! JD David | Of course! We'll try to give everyone at | lease a few days | notice. | Data? Tulip | Thanks! Data | I have an idea about this. Could we maybe be | E-Mailed in advance? JD David | Hmm, I don't see why not. But wouldn't a | message in the A & O | section with the title: A & O Conference: | 8/18 be enough? (or | something like that? | ) Data | I | It is just that if you come in for a minute | and leave without a chance to review | the date gets reset. E-Mail can't be missed. Tulip | I just saw the thread this afternoon. And | when I came back this evening, it was gone. JD David | Ah, I see. OK, we'll e-mail everyone. Tulip | I reset back to 8/1 and it still wasn't there Sabertooth [Helper] | True, the volume is heavy in here and will | get worse with | general release. JD David | As well as post it to the forum (since brand | new Acolytes may | not get the e-mail the first time) | I think JW had our final comment? :) JWFriendly | I would just like to say.. Thanks for | informing the | membership via Bob Jones about Acolytes, | Updates, etc.. | It's a great help and to the rest of the | team... | Congratulations and keep up the great work! | :) [[[[Team | Hug]]]]] :D JD David | (wow, that is good final comment!) | We're going to post that message again, | with the list of all the current Acolytes. | We'll update it often, | as will as u/l the original message to the | library. | (as well as u/l...) | I've got to run. Thanks for coming everyone! | We'll see you in | world, and as always, feel free to ask | Teresias or I any questions | you have! Sabertooth [Helper] | See ya soon! JD David | May Morpheus send you all sweet dreams! Tulip | Thanks guys!! Data | Thanks I enjoyed it! Milen | Later, guys! Sabertooth [Helper] | Ah my. Tulip | I need to check phone messages... But I will | see you in world later! Bye <F7> Sabertooth [Helper] | See ya soon, Tulip!