Hotel Silicon - Incident with Psycho - June 1998

From Reno Project

This transcript appeared in an article from the Silicon Soup newspaper entitled My side of the story by Psycho - June 14th 1998. To provide added context, the article is being reprinted here alongside the transcript as it was originally published.

Also, the term basementing refers to avatars who break the Terms of Service of the world being sent to the Basement region you see in the image below. It's likely this region was cloned and looped back in on itself in every direction so avatars who were sent there were totally isolated from every other avatar.

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Okay, this is how it really happened... everything Tigereye said is true, I was holding the items for him because his pocket was full. This article is about the log of me being basemented. It doesn't take a genius to see that I NEVER REFUSED TO GIVE BACK THE ITEMS. Valet Robert is obviously an idiot.

He kept stating I refused to give back the items, this is not the case.

Read the log.

Ðarksider maxxie: hi CC

Concierge Claudette: Okay what is going on tonight?

Maverick: whoa

Psycho: Hiya<wave>

Concierge Claudette: Psycho I know you have items from the vendo is that true?

Concierge Claudette: I do hope it isn't true Psycho I really do.

Maverick: I been good I been good

Maverick: I swear I been good

Concierge Claudette: I'm not talking to you maverick.

Maverick: look Im good Im good

Madness: Hi Claudy<wave>

Maverick: plz no more <react>

Concierge Claudette: Psycho I'm waiting for an answer.

Valet Jadi: Hi Claudette

Maverick: fsycho answer <react>

Concierge Claudette: Okay let me be a little more clear.

Concierge Claudette: hand over the items please.

Ðarksider maxxie: what vendo?

Concierge Claudette: Had then over.

Psycho: I don't have them on me

Concierge Claudette: Do you know how hard I worked on these locales?

Concierge Claudette: I don't see a vendo on this screen do you?

Psycho: <shrug> No

Maverick: hiya fobert <wave>

Concierge Claudette: then how are you able to retrieve items from the vendo?

Psycho: I wasn't.

Concierge Claudette: Hand over the items my patience is running thin.

Valet Robert: He didn't Claudette TE did

Psycho: I didn't do anything

Psycho: why are you snapping at me

Valet Robert: TE gave them to him

Concierge Claudette: Hand them over please.

Concierge Claudette: Have I not been clear?

Valet Robert: Just to be clear on what happened

Maverick: wow

Psycho: I'm not clear

Maverick: what an idiot TE is

Maverick: couldn't he just wait <shrug>

Concierge Claudette: If you have items in your possession psycho I want them now.

Maverick: is not like they are unique

Maverick: they'll be here soon

Psycho: they're in my turf

Concierge Claudette: Okay we will wait right here until you get them.

Concierge Claudette: you have 30 seconds.

Concierge Claudette: 29

Concierge Claudette: 28

Concierge Claudette: 27

Psycho: ha ha.

Concierge Claudette: 26

Maverick: bye psycho dude

Valet Robert: Now you know why I was standing there Maverick

Psycho: This is absurd.

Maverick: oh..hehe <react>

Maverick: I thought it wuz a valet orgy <sigh>

Concierge Claudette: I see I am not clear, psycho. It is unfair for you to have those items.

Maverick: dang it fober

Psycho: I've done nothing wrong

Maverick: what a big dissappointment <sigh>

Psycho: Why?

Maverick: <react>

Concierge Claudette: Did you or did you not just say you have these items?

Psycho: I never said I didn't

Psycho: I never even said I woudln't get them

Concierge Claudette: Hand them over and do the right thing.

Psycho: However, I wil lnto be ordered around at gunpoint

Psycho: and a damn countdown of 30 seconds.

Maverick: I been good, I been good <react>

<ESP to Psycho: ?>

Valet Robert: Mav I'm glad you were not part of this Honest

<ESP from Psycho: basemented>

Maverick: ya I know

Maverick: that's dumb though

Maverick: I mean....

<ESP to Psycho: really !>

Maverick: is just pixels

Maverick: and u can WAIT!

Concierge Claudette: I believe we won't be having this problem again.

Valet Robert: 24 hours away no big deal

Maverick: ya

Maverick: she wuz pretty mean<shrug>

Maverick: pscyho is basemented

§kÿdancer: folks <wave>

Claudette disappeared for a while... we continue where she comes back..

Concierge Claudette: Sorry don't mind me I'm just removing the vendo.

Broobyler: Hello Claudette <wave>

Broobyler: N/P

§kÿdancer: reckon we'll get jury duty mav?

Maverick: we be gossipping about

Maverick: what just happened

Broobyler: Ohh

Maverick: is our only action <react>

Concierge Claudette: You can thank psycho and TE's patch use for it.

§kÿdancer: CC <wave><grin>

Broobyler: I know you said not to mind you

Concierge Claudette: There's a nice story for you Maxxie <grin>

Ðarksider maxxie: psycho didnt use patch he says

Broobyler: But do you think we could get the name of the mountains, floor and sky to match?

Maverick: claudy: TE said something like he was just picking them up and they were simply here and u knew about it

Ðarksider maxxie: was just given the items

Ðarksider maxxie: why basement him for that?

Maverick: hey fobert

Maverick: put your book away

Concierge Claudette: Patch use is a violation of the TOS.

Maverick: they make me hella nervous <react>

Valet Robert: Well Maxxie he was going to by TE's own words

§kÿdancer: lol...mav

Concierge Claudette: I need you two stand please so I can remove it.

Maverick: froob..heeelp

Ðarksider maxxie: it wasnt HIM using it

Maverick: where da heck is it?

Ðarksider maxxie: so he says...

Concierge Claudette: He did not get them when I told him to.

Concierge Claudette: Did you see me say go get the items?

Concierge Claudette: He didn't move.

Ðarksider maxxie: yes I saw that

Concierge Claudette: why should those 2 get items early from an invisible vendo?

Concierge Claudette: It's not fair to the community.

Concierge Claudette: do you find that fair Maxxie?

Ðarksider maxxie: no they shouldnt

Broobyler: Was it patch use? I don't know what happened

§kÿdancer: nope

Maverick: invisible?

Concierge Claudette: yes it was patch use.

Maverick: maybe they just had infra red lights

Maverick: claudy<shrug>

Maverick: or something like dat <react>

Concierge Claudette: maxxie and madness I need you to stand please.

§kÿdancer: shhhh mav...lol

Maverick: yeah move geeez <react>

§kÿdancer: mads away

Concierge Claudette: Madness I need you to stand.

Concierge Claudette: thank you.

Maverick: lol

Maverick: that was more like a crash

Concierge Claudette: Vendo has been removed.

Maverick: cool

Broobyler: Well, there is a book out, so it coulda been forced

Broobyler: <grin>

§kÿdancer: whats that in yer hand maxxx?

Concierge Claudette: There is no vendo nor will there be a vendo.

Broobyler: Just like that <shrug>

§kÿdancer: bourbon?

Ðarksider maxxie: tea, sky <grin>

Maverick: oh man

Maverick: <sigh>

Maverick: the paycheck incident again

Valet Robert: Let us not forget that Psycho refused to give the items back Maxxie.

Maverick: we pay for other people

Maverick: that mess up

Valet Robert: Which is just cause for the basement alone

Ðarksider maxxie: he didnt say he wouldnt give them back

Maverick: quote from tigereye:

Maverick: I was doing what she told me to do, get the unglued items from

Ðarksider maxxie: he didnt like the way he was told to

§kÿdancer: just took is time

Valet Robert: He wanted to on his time

Maverick: the locale without being noticed.

Valet Robert: Do you have that option when you take things you shouldn't?

Ðarksider maxxie: Im sure he will turn the items in

Maverick: he was going to....

Maverick: he was on his way there

Concierge Claudette: I left a nice message for everyone.

Concierge Claudette: leave the locale and return.

[Entering Locale: Silicon Cafe]

[Welcome to Silicon Cafe!]

[Come again soon!]

[Entering Locale: Silicon Cafe]

[Sorry everyone. Vendo was removed due to patch use. It will not be restored.]

Valet Robert: We all know Psycho should have turned TE but he didn't

Concierge Claudette: It's not very nice to tamper with vendos.

Maverick: that's a pretty dang mean message

Broobyler: To the point

Valet Robert: Instead he kept the items

Maverick: yeah claudette..but do ya think we should all pay for it?

Maverick: ok..how about this

Valet Robert: His intent was clear

Maverick: can ya make da items valet items?

Maverick: instead?

§kÿdancer: geez that kitchen made me hungry...lol

Concierge Claudette: sorry, the vendo is gone.

Maverick: like you did w/ paycheck?

Ðarksider maxxie: no offense claudette, but I think this is a bit childish

Concierge Claudette: Thank them when you see them.

Concierge Claudette: Maxxie let me be a bit clear here...

Maverick: put da same items in da valet vendo ya?

Concierge Claudette: If TE has this patch others do as well.

Maverick: pssst

Maverick: fobert?

Valet Robert: Yes?

Maverick: put da book away <react>

Valet Robert: LOL

Concierge Claudette: It's not fair to your anyone elses in this locale for those two to have items.

Maverick: u r scaring me <react>

Valet Robert: Done

Broobyler: TE does have the power to create patches

Valet Robert: LOL

Maverick: cooool <jump>

Concierge Claudette: From a vendo they used a patch to get.

Maverick: thanks <react>

Ðarksider maxxie: agreed

Concierge Claudette: A vendo that is not open for all.

Concierge Claudette: Is that fair Maxxie?

Concierge Claudette: I don't think so. I know I would be pretty upset.

Concierge Claudette: Other will just do the same Max I can't leave the vendo there.

Ðarksider maxxie: but why not have the vendo anymore at all now and punish all ?

Maverick: yeah, but you can put it visible <shrug>

Valet Robert: It was Mav

Concierge Claudette: It WAS invisible.

Maverick: lol

Maverick: is always mav

Maverick: ya it was me..I made da patch <react>

Maverick: I dont know VB3 yet

Maverick: but ya

Maverick: I made it <react>

Valet Robert: No

Concierge Claudette: I don't think I'm the bad guy here. I didn't use a patch to screw the community.

Valet Robert: It was invisible

Concierge Claudette: I know I spent hours building these 3 locales and spent weeks planning the BIG event

Concierge Claudette: and I won't have 2 people mess it up.

Maverick: lol froobyler

Concierge Claudette: It's not fair to you as community members.

Maverick: I still don't get da big event

Maverick: those chefs trip me out

Concierge Claudette: You will tomorrow evening Mav.

Maverick: cool <jump>

Concierge Claudette: Maxxie...

§kÿdancer: whats on tomorrow?

Broobyler: Well, I'll be at the chefs meeting

Valet Robert: Mav if the Valets didn't guard that vendo what would have happened tonight in your eyes?

Concierge Claudette: I'll put the items in the valet vendo for now and a vendo will return later.

Maverick: nothing <shrug>

Maverick: 'cause I couldn't see it <shrug>

Concierge Claudette: but for now it has to be removed so that we can disable that patch.

Valet Robert: I mean as far as TE and Psycho

Concierge Claudette: I don't have a choice in this matter.

Maverick: oh

Maverick: Claudette: I think that's a good choice

Maverick: as long as we eventually have it..I like dat idea

Ðarksider maxxie: of course not

Concierge Claudette: but I do have a choice when it protects the community and this is the choice I had to make.

Maverick: Fobert: they would get moer items

Maverick: I think Flaudy is being fair

Concierge Claudette: The vendo will return but not until we disable the patch.

Maverick: yeah ..seems good

Concierge Claudette: It's not to punish it's to protect.

Valet Robert: Something like the dupes I imagine

Maverick: she is putting them in valet vendo

Ðarksider maxxie: I didnt question your action removing an invisible vendo... lol.. but your locale message makes one think we wont have a vendo here at all now

Maverick: we can play now <jump>

Concierge Claudette: I'll remove the message.

Maverick: k..fobert is gonna do a give away

Maverick: right now

Maverick: giving us all new items

Valet Robert: LOL

Maverick: tell claudette that I was doing as she said and tryig to protect the

Maverick: community. If she would have taken the time to talk to me she woud have

Maverick: seen that

Concierge Claudette: message is removed.

Maverick: coolio <react>

Concierge Claudette: I just wanted everyone to know.

§kÿdancer: geez lotta typin mav..lol

Broobyler: Well, no one can say you don't listen

Maverick: lol

Concierge Claudette: Why it was removed.

Ðarksider maxxie: claudette we didnt even know it was here

Ðarksider maxxie: not me at least

Ðarksider maxxie: LOL

Maverick: claudette: mav was here...I have a big mouth..trust me the community will know <grin>

§kÿdancer: nor I <shrug>

Concierge Claudette: That was the intention.

Broobyler: I figured the vendo was right there

Concierge Claudette: I did not want vendo madness to take away from the BIG event.

Broobyler: Just because of the vendo sized spot

Maverick: oh...

Concierge Claudette: It was going to be made visible after it was over on Sunday.

Maverick: so that's why is not here

Concierge Claudette: Right.

Maverick: I was wondering about dat

§kÿdancer: whats on tommorrow?

Broobyler: People can't wait until Sunday to get new stuff, phew

Concierge Claudette: But I see I could not even have that go right.

Valet Robert: Chef Meeting

§kÿdancer: new menus?

Valet Robert: No not you Claudette

Valet Robert: You did it right

Maverick: I don't like tigerye

Valet Robert: Just like Paycheck the other member of the group breaking the "Let Me Outs"

Concierge Claudette: Um Ghost, Psycho was warned and told to get the items.

Maverick: paycheck was not banned for dat

Maverick: he just had a tantrum

Ðarksider maxxie: if psycho was just given the items, didnt use patch himself, which I think is true, why not give him the chance to return items ... without accusing him

Maverick: and left

Maverick: like an diiot

Maverick: I think the fair thing to do about psycho

Maverick: is let him back in 2 weeks

Maverick: or something like dat

Valet Robert: Maxxie his friend TE told me that Psycho had every intention of using the vendo

Maverick: he deserves punishment..but not total

Maverick: banishment

Valet Robert: Which is why the Valets were standing here

Ðarksider maxxie: well did he or did he not ?

Ðarksider maxxie: whatever someone else SAYS shouldnt count

Maverick: preach on brotha

Concierge Claudette: He said he had the items did he not?

Valet Robert: Not that I saw but he was camped out waiting

Maverick: ya, but he was on his way to return them

Ðarksider maxxie: yes, but he told me tigereye GAVE them to him, claudette

Concierge Claudette: Okay good we have established that...Psycho had the items.

Valet Jadi: yes..he said they were in his turf

Maverick: sorry froob <sigh>

Concierge Claudette: Exactly.

Maverick: claudy: how about u let him back in 2 weeks or so <shrug>

Valet Robert: But if someone gives you items that you are not supposed to have what should you do?

Concierge Claudette: And did or I or did I not tell him to get the items?

Valet Jadi: He said he did not have them on him...but they were in turf

Maverick: claudette: he was on his way to get 'em

Valet Robert: Everyone talks about rights and brings the RW into play here why not now?

Maverick: when you basemented him

Gabby: page a valet

Maverick: I don't bring da RW here

Ðarksider maxxie: yes, but it was the way you asked him that he objected to, you combined it with accusing him of having retrieved them illegally

Concierge Claudette: Excuse me Mav, but I didn't see him move.

Valet Robert: He did Maxxie

Concierge Claudette: I gave plenty of time to move.

Concierge Claudette: He did not.

Concierge Claudette: He chose to defy me.

Ðarksider maxxie: he didnt say he wouldnt return them

Valet Robert: He knew he was not supposed to have them

Maverick: what about if you give him another chance? make him give them back right now..then punish him for a short time?

Valet Robert: That is not legal is it?

Concierge Claudette: He should have moved to get them when I told him.

Maverick: don't ban him forever..he is addicted

Valet Robert: How can you defend him when he stole from all of you?

Valet Robert: I don't understand that

Maverick: the basement is no fun..I was da first one there ever and I wuz there recnetly <react>

Concierge Claudette: That's what I want to know.

§kÿdancer: programmers do need to act in accordance with the rules <shrug>

Maverick: I don't feel ripped off from him

Maverick: psycho is a nice guy

Maverick: he is just greedy for items

Concierge Claudette: I do.

Maverick: I think u should give him another chance

Maverick: I think all avies basemented deserve another chance

Concierge Claudette: What they did was not fair to everyone in this room.

Maverick: claudette: let me tell you, I wouldn't have changed ..but when I was basemented for that long I learned my lesson

Maverick: I think punishment is good, but another chance is also in place...u know <shrug>

Concierge Claudette: Well now they need to learn their lesson.

Concierge Claudette: If you screw the community, you screw yourself. That's the bottom line here.

Maverick: so will you give them another chance after they r punished for a little bit?

§kÿdancer: also cpopyright infringments

Concierge Claudette: That WAS their last chance.

Valet Jadi: The point is that the vendo was invisible for a reason...and up to Claudette when the items were to become available to the community..not up to TE

Gabby: they new it wrong to start with

Valet Robert: When you cross the right of another avatar you in turn lose your own right

Valet Robert: God I love that line thanks WW

Maverick: hehe

Maverick: they r not bad guys

Maverick: they r just greedy

Concierge Claudette: So now they are dealing with that greed.

Concierge Claudette: They both were warned about patch use.

Maverick: but another chance would be awfully nice, and i'm sure they'd never do it again

Concierge Claudette: any more patch use and that was it.

Concierge Claudette: they both agreed to that.

Maverick: I know I won't do more of dat again

Concierge Claudette: I have text and witnesses if you need to see it.

Maverick: they are kids...when u r a kid..u tend to do that

Concierge Claudette: Dante, gisele and myself were present.

Valet Robert: I could see if he played Robin Hood buy how do you defend someone that stole from you and offered you nothing?

Maverick: u would be helping them grow up

Ðarksider maxxie: text and witness that psycho used patch ?

Concierge Claudette: No that they were warned any more patch use and that was it.

Valet Robert: buy=but

Concierge Claudette: They had already lost prize support for patch use before this incident.

Maverick: and psycho told you w/ his alt that he was gonna return da items

Valet Robert: Maxxie is keeping the stolen items not enough?

Concierge Claudette: TE was reinstated to prize support later after I told him one screw up and that's it.

Valet Robert: Did he not include himself by taking the itmes?

Concierge Claudette: He agreed, but obviously he did not learn.

Valet Robert: Why should TE take the punishment alone?

Maverick: I think punishment is in place, but not forever

Maverick: that sucks..they are kids

Valet Robert: Psycho wanted in and got it

Concierge Claudette: They were warned.

Maverick: I'm sure if u punish them for a little bit

Ðarksider maxxie: Im sure psycho would have returned the itmes

Maverick: they'd learn their lesson

Ðarksider maxxie: items

Concierge Claudette: they why did he not move?

Maverick: he wanted to give them to ya

Maverick: w/ his alt

Ðarksider maxxie: because of the way you told him to, accusing him of using a patch

Maverick: but u basemented his alt too

Gabby: trying to muco

Ðarksider maxxie: while he was just given them

Maverick: ya...u were a bit rude claudy....he felt slapped around

Valet Robert: How do you set terms holding stolen items?

Maverick: he is a teenager..we act that way <grin>

Maverick: I do it to me mom sometimes <shrug>

Concierge Claudette: I'm sorry Maverick but that excuse has grown old with me.

Ðarksider maxxie: what mav says.. yes... consider his age

Concierge Claudette: How many times must I punish for the same thing?

Maverick: well..listen

Maverick: I have been punished in wa

Concierge Claudette: How many times must I warn for the same thing over and over again.

Maverick: for LOTS LOTS of times

Ðarksider maxxie: I dont think psycho deserves same punishment as TE

Maverick: but this last time

Maverick: is da only time

Maverick: I actually learned my lesson

Maverick: 'cause u actually banned me

Concierge Claudette: No problem Maxxie you are fully entitled to your opinion.

Maverick: I think u should do da same to them

Maverick: ban them for a while

Maverick: make them learn like that

Valet Robert: Maxxie if I hacked your account and ruined you in here but Psycho used it too would you only want me punished?

Concierge Claudette: However take into consderation that they were both warned.

Maverick: a little punishment doesn't do it

Maverick: I would fobert

Valet Robert: Just me or both?

Ðarksider maxxie: It would be nice if you would talk to psycho about this again<grin>

Maverick: I like fsycho..not u <react>

Maverick: j/k <react>

Maverick: ya, I think u should summon them both

Maverick: and igve them a chance to talk it out

Concierge Claudette: he should have thought of that before.

Valet Robert: TE was on his last warning

Concierge Claudette: patch use is a violation of the TOS and certainly receiving stolen items is a violation of the community as a whole.

Maverick: that's where Im at now

Maverick: ay ay ay

Valet Robert: TE has been doing the patch thing since way before the dupe scandel

§kÿdancer: ok...folks have a nice day...steak house is callin <grin><wave>

Valet Robert: Do you think he has learned anything?

Maverick: later on fky <wave>

Anon and Fearing for his life: <wave>

Ðarksider maxxie: Im not defending TE here..,

Maverick: well..he learned not to give mav any patches

Concierge Claudette: Well I need to leave you all now. Please try to enjoy the remainder of your weekend and the BIG event.

Maverick: mav is not good w/ power <react>

Concierge Claudette: And don't let this overshadow it in any way. Make sure you have fun this weekend.

Maverick: c-ya later flaudy <wave>

Concierge Claudette: Thank you all.

"Psycho: I never said I didn't"

"Psycho: I never even said I woudln't get them"

I said I wouldn't be ordered around at gunpoint and only given 30 seconds. I can't even move two locales in 30 seconds. Also, I USED NO PATCHES whatsoever. Claudette's reason for me being banned was first patch use, then refusal to return items, which NEITHER is true. Finally after I was basemented, I logged on as my ALT and esped her "Look, I don't know what I did wrong, if having items is a crime, I'll gladly return them, just tell me where to meet you"


My alt was then muted 30,000 minutes and basemented as well. It's obvious the items weren't the reason for the basementing either.

Then why you ask?

Personal biased reasons. They have nothing to do with this incident at all.

I didn't break any rules, any laws, any ToS's. Hell I didn't even swear.

I've e-mailed dream@WorldsAway.com, wa_webmail@WorldsAway.com, and of course Claudette... I've received no answer from any of them as of yet.

Only time can tell what will happen.

Also, on Tigereye's part... he *did* use a patch yes, but Claudette *TOLD* him to get the items. Neither of us did anything wrong... and that's a fact. Also, just FYI ***IF*** I had refused to return the items, that is still no grounds for basementing. (I did not refuse however). Claudette was acting on *only* a personal hatred towards me.

Psycho


(P.S. keep checking out soap for some **HOT** info that just might surface soon... <wink wink nudge nudge butthead>)


(Butthead says: It's the non-obvious Psychos that scare me)