Tour with Archivist Shiren and Stig Redfin - September 21st, 2000

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Original transcript kindly provided by John Freeman, former VZSciFi project manager.

[Entering Locale: Expressway One AQ01]

[Welcome back! You are returning as a ghost.]

[Entering Locale: Expressway One Entrance]

[Entering Locale: Dropzone Bar Space City]

[Entering Locale: Space City Main Square]

[Entering Locale: Entrance to Space City]

[Entering Locale: View of Space City]

[You have ESP Mail waiting.]

[Select the 'Read ESP Mail' item on your avatar menu to read it.]

[From Linsue on Sep 16: u still here?]

[Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell is now following you.]

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: You bottom burp

[Entering Locale: Exit to Vzones]

[Danger! Temporal disturbance ahead. The Space City Council accepts no responsibility for any activities beyond this dimensional portal!]

[Entering Locale: Entrance to VZSci Fi]

[Entering Locale: Entrance to Detroit]

[Entering Locale: VZConnections Entrance]

[Entering Locale: Promise Park (VZC)]

[Entering Locale: VARiATiONS (VZC)]

[Entering Locale: Entrance to Detroit]

[Entering Locale: Entrance to VZSci Fi]

[Entering Locale: View of Space City]

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: La da dump doootoray, la da da dumptooray, La la la la la

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: Your singing is a s bad as ever

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: thak you kindly

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: that wasn't a compliment

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: I can nevber tell with you

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: you are so impenetrable

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: It's my obsidain nature

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: you mean you are rock headed?

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: h ha

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: heh

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: So, shall we take a wander around VZones today?

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: No, I don't want to get lost in there again

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: and that desert is far too hot

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: But there are som nice new shops I want to see

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: You alreay owe me far too many tokens for shopping

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: aw

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: You never let me have any fun

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: yes i do, and look what happens

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: ... time storms...

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: seep weed...

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: riots

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: Ukran uprisings

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: That wasn't me that was another Ukrann

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: so YOU say

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: hmf

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Didn't he stop by last week?

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: I don't recall, all those humans look the same to me

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Except the feamle ones

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: female

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: Good greif, for a minute there you were going to tell me they had gene-spliced another of their disparate

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: sexes

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: Don't they have enough trouble already?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Well there's nothing like tempting fate

[Thu Sep 21 09:00:34 2000]

[Total time online: 44 hr 11 min 11 sec, since Wed Apr 26 03:42:50 2000]

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Ta da!

Plain, simple Garak: Howdy Y'all! <grin>

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: It is Mr Garak

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: Greetings Mr garak

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: What is that strange creature you have in your hand

Plain, simple Garak: 'Tis an AvatarWares Gremlin. I've named him Enabran, after my father... <grin>

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: Enabran?

Plain, simple Garak: Yes, Enabran Tain. (Paul Dooley, from DS9).

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: Ah, one of your Earth drama shows

Plain, simple Garak: Yes, that would be correct.

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: I was watching a historical re enactment of one of them yesterday

Plain, simple Garak: Which one might that be?

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: The one where --

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: ~NO dont tell him th end of Voyager he will be very annoyed

Plain, simple Garak: That's right - Shiren knows all, does hi not?

Plain, simple Garak: he, even...

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Not thyat he probably hasn't guess that they find Earth in the last five minutes of the last episode and

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: cop out from dealing with the consequences of the return

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: Stig, you idiot

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: dont you threaten me with your ceremonial staff

Plain, simple Garak: From what I've heard, it's not in the last five minutes - perhaps before the last few episodes, though...

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Ha

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: I'll belive it when I see it. Ah, I already did

<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: avaterra mail box is back online you might get a reply from Michael soon>

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Hiya Ghostee

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: a ghost? where?

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: Should I re-send, or just wait? I sent you an E-mail within the last 30-45 minutes, asking that....>

Plain, simple Garak: Hey ghostie!!

<ESP from Blondy: hiyas<wave><wave><wave>>

<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: should be ok, there's a six day limit to mail box finalk bounce back>

<ESP to Blondy: Hiya Blondy>

<ESP to Blondy: How are you today>

<ESP from Blondy: oh a bittiredstayed up al night practically>

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: K. Thanks!>

<ESP to Blondy: Yike, weel I hope you were having some fun while you were doing that <grin>>

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Well, we are just waiting for Linsue now...

Plain, simple Garak: I'm sure she'll be along....

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: You didn't throw her in ablack hole or something did you Stig?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: No, we spoke briefly earlier in the week and then she poofed never to return

<ESP from Blondy: yes as a matterof fact i did have fun thanks<grin><grin>>

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: well, not that day, anyw ay

<ESP to Blondy: Good. No point in staying up most of the night if you cant enjoy yourself along the way!>

<ESP from Blondy: this is true<grin>>

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Shall we take a look at some of SciFi, then?

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: I'm up for it, but I think Mr temepleton wants to use my machine...

Plain, simple Garak: Sure. Is our Ghostie friend accompanying us?

Archivist Shiren of the T'Chell: yes he does, so I had better be going... see you garak

Plain, simple Garak: Bye Shiren....

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: who knows the secret of the ghosties

<ESP from Blondy: lol>

<ESP from Blondy: this ghostie is gonna go lay down a bit have fun <grin><grin><grin><grin><grin>>

Plain, simple Garak: Mr. T....

Mr. Templeton: Hi all

Mr. Templeton: Hi Garak

[Mr. Templeton is now following you.]

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: We're just going on a bit of a tour

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: and Linsuemay catch up with us

Mr. Templeton: she just e-mailed me, I think she is on her way soon

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: great

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Ok, let's head

[Entering Locale: Entrance to Space City]

[Entering Locale: Space City Main Square]

ISAAK: Welcome to Space City!

ISAAK: Access to open worlds is now free.

ISAAK: thanks to recent tax changes!

ISAAK: Enjoy your visit to the Orell System!

ISAAK: Welcome to Space City!

ISAAK: Access to open worlds is now free.

ISAAK: thanks to recent tax changes!

ISAAK: Enjoy your visit to the Orell System!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Hey is that the same ghost?

Mr. Templeton: Nope, different one

Plain, simple Garak: Ghostie is now gone....

Mr. Templeton: Jim, did you get my message about scifi?

[Entering Locale: Space City Library]

[Entering Locale: Sci Fi Library Workshop]

[Entering Locale: Sci Fi Convention Room]

Plain, simple Garak: Yes, I E-mailed you on that...

Mr. Templeton: i'm not running emial program right now

Mr. Templeton: wil check it later

Mr. Templeton: But the conversation I had with Robert Dunbar was pretty positive

Plain, simple Garak: NP. Talked about VZSciFi, Michael, and my new links page....

Plain, simple Garak: Sounds good. I'm all for anything that will promote VZSciFi....

Mr. Templeton: yes, got that one... nice link page, works well

Mr. Templeton: just tested it on the pc.

Mr. Templeton: the interface on the mac isn't the same

Plain, simple Garak: TY!! Added a bunch of VZSciFi links today.

Mr. Templeton: yeah, that is all good stuff. It looks great on the pc I am on with its huge monitor -- I can see most of them at once <grin>

Plain, simple Garak: I really wanted to do it mainly for VZSciFi exposure, so I'm glad it shows up that way....

Mr. Templeton: Cheers

Plain, simple Garak: Tried to give some good organization to it...

Plain, simple Garak: TY!!!!

Plain, simple Garak: Still working on it, too - need to add Plug-ins, and that sort of thing.

Mr. Templeton: What do you think about the idea of you running some moderated chats? I was thinking that with you being in the US...

Mr. Templeton: It would mean you could perhaps do some author talks that could be done in a US evening, which isn't possible for me?

Plain, simple Garak: I would enjoy that very much.

Plain, simple Garak: I would need to find out what to do in the event of disruptive guests, and that sort of thing....

Mr. Templeton: I'm taling to Lou Anders at Bookface.com about maybe having a series of events that ties in with the writers on his online book site

Mr. Templeton: Well, I would make sure there was a guide on hand if I wasn't around to run them

Plain, simple Garak: He/She works for Titan's mags, right?

Mr. Templeton: Lou used to... Now he just works for this new books compnay, based in San Fran

Plain, simple Garak: He...

Plain, simple Garak: I see.

Mr. Templeton: They promote books online -- you can read all of Straczynski's new book there, and then buy a hard copy if you want

Mr. Templeton: Fiona Avery has also had quite a few stories there, too

Plain, simple Garak: Really! Jumping on that E-book bandwagon, eh?

Mr. Templeton: Personally I am not into online reading, but I like the concept and can see the potential

Mr. Templeton: Once the monitors dont glare as much it will be better, I think

Plain, simple Garak: Yes, I tend to like to have a hard copy in my hand, as opposed to reading on-line or printing things off.

Mr. Templeton: The other thing is that if you can help me in VZones in this way, I was thinking that perhaps we could negotiate with the new bosses of VZones, like I do... -- and set you up with your own log in, so any subs through your site, you'd get a percentage

Mr. Templeton: But keep that to yourself for now

Mr. Templeton: a percentage of each sub, I mean

Plain, simple Garak: That would be fabulous! I spend so much time here now, anything that could be done to increase my involvement with official events would be most welcome.

Mr. Templeton: ha, we have you hooked <grin>

Plain, simple Garak: That's why I'm beating that sponsorship drum so loudly now. I would really like to become sanctioned, to bring legitimacy to my events.....

Mr. Templeton: Well, this would be something more than inworld sponsorship, this would mean scififanatic.com presenting itslef as more of a VZSciFi partner, with the aim of increasing membership between us

Mr. Templeton: which of course is what i am trying to do all the time!

Plain, simple Garak: Yes, I understand. That would produce an even added amount of legitimacy.

Plain, simple Garak: Ghostie - Hello!!!!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Hang on, this is going to be easier if 'Stig' and I swap machines!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: brb

[Entering Locale: Sci Fi Convention Room]

[You have ESP Mail waiting.]

[Select the 'Read ESP Mail' item on your avatar menu to read it.]

[Welcome back! You are returning as a ghost.]

[From Caretaker Cuz on Sep 20: <wave> Hi, I was called out of town and away from my computer on a family emergency and just got home today. You didn't upset anyone lmao. <grin>]

Mr. Templeton: Okay... let's take a look at Aqua

Plain, simple Garak: K. Must I follow one of you?

Mr. Templeton: no, I'll just summon you from there. BTW, you won't be able to 'de-ghost' -- iyt is a safety precaution after we had problems late alst year before Harvax was opened

Plain, simple Garak: OK. NP....

[You have been teleported.]

[Entering Locale: Argos City Entranceway]

Mr. Templeton: IU'll wait for things to oad

Plain, simple Garak: Loading art... <grin>

Mr. Templeton: load

Plain, simple Garak: Nice...

Plain, simple Garak: Done..

Mr. Templeton: better keep him with me

Mr. Templeton: <grin>

[Stig Redfin of the Ukrann is now following you.]

Plain, simple Garak: Sure. Can't trust him off on his own... <grin>

Mr. Templeton: Ok, this is a water planet

Mr. Templeton: absolutely

Plain, simple Garak: Dead fish....

Mr. Templeton: samme entrance and exit as harvaz -- you will be able to teleport back to your turf, just like you can there

Plain, simple Garak: Nice feature.

Mr. Templeton: the port shouldnt be active right now, though

Plain, simple Garak: Just Harvax surface, and last port....

Mr. Templeton: yes, those are the old controls -- that will change when this place goes live

Mr. Templeton: it will just be a door

Plain, simple Garak: ...also an Other selection

Plain, simple Garak: OK.

[Entering Locale: The Stingray]

[You have entered as a ghost; avatars are not allowed in this locale.]

James : Salutations Ghost

James : Welcome to the Stingray Health Complex, Planet Aqua, enjoy your stay

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: Greetings!>

[Avatars: Plain, simple Garak, Mr. Templeton. Ghosts: Stig Redfin of the Ukrann.]

Mr. Templeton: that's good, stig is just following us

Plain, simple Garak: More Yarbles..... <grin>

Mr. Templeton: the idea here was that thios would be an aentrance way to some turfs

Mr. Templeton: yep

Mr. Templeton: the whole place is an underwater health spa<grin>

Plain, simple Garak: Nice, large feeling.

Mr. Templeton: the disk on the floor is the turf access

Plain, simple Garak: Right.

Mr. Templeton: which right now takes you back to the space city turfs

[Entering Locale: View of Watermart]

[You have entered as a ghost; avatars are not allowed in this locale.]

<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: this is a link between the 'pods'>

<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: ghosts only here all the time>

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: Nice....>

<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: I'm not sure if it works or whether it will just annoy people... >

<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: because they wioll have to ghost and deghost all the time>

<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: btw, are you following me?>

[Avatars: none. Ghosts: Plain, simple Garak, Stig Redfin of the Ukrann, Mr. Templeton.]

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: There do seem to be some distance discussions.>

[Entering Locale: WaterMart]

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: No, I don't have it set that way.>

Plain, simple Garak: But I can, if you want....

[Plain, simple Garak is now following you.]

Plain, simple Garak: Now following....

Mr. Templeton: might be easier, in case you get lost

Plain, simple Garak: K.

Plain, simple Garak: Nice Vendroid.

Plain, simple Garak: I really like the consistent look so far.

Mr. Templeton: Yes, it looks pretty good... the thing is tho, it needs to be a much busier area before we open too many planets

Plain, simple Garak: Yes.

Mr. Templeton: otherwise those that do use it will be spread out completely

[Entering Locale: View of Pod 3: Aqua Marina]

[You have entered as a ghost; avatars are not allowed in this locale.]

[Entering Locale: Aqua Marina]

Mr. Templeton: I think we will probably add to this locale -- maybe some more background plants and things

Plain, simple Garak: It could use a bit of dressing.

Mr. Templeton: But it's a nother possible area for games -- or could be another conference room if the chairs were moved

Plain, simple Garak: ...and a few more added.

Plain, simple Garak: Maybe benches that look like waves?

[ESP mail sent.]

Mr. Templeton: yes, possibly

Mr. Templeton: though these chairs are the same throughout vzscifi, so thast speeds loading time

Plain, simple Garak: Right.

[Entering Locale: Pod 4 Access Way]

[You have entered as a ghost; avatars are not allowed in this locale.]

[Entering Locale: Oxygen Invigorator Centre]

Mr. Templeton: you'll like this

Plain, simple Garak: Where did you go? Still loading....

Mr. Templeton: heh

Plain, simple Garak: Fun!

Mr. Templeton: same piece of software as the cars in the carnival

Plain, simple Garak: Danger of death... That's good!

[Sorry, you can't do that.]

Plain, simple Garak: Aaaahhhh.

Mr. Templeton: still some tweking to do... these chairs need fixing

Plain, simple Garak: Can't sit....

Plain, simple Garak: Right.

Mr. Templeton: ok, I'll show you vulka now if you have time

Plain, simple Garak: Sure!

Mr. Templeton: just checking access codes, hang on

Plain, simple Garak: K. NP....

[You have been teleported.]

[Entering Locale: View 3]

Plain, simple Garak: Loading...

Mr. Templeton: thanks for reminding me

Plain, simple Garak: Another good look.....

Mr. Templeton: again, there is still work to do here, so some things aren't named as well

Plain, simple Garak: Just got ESP from Linsue....

Mr. Templeton: k

Mr. Templeton: haha

Linsue: Hello<grin><grin>

Plain, simple Garak: YOu have been summoned....

Mr. Templeton: we're having a secret tour

Linsue: How are you all?

Linsue: Thanks MrT

Plain, simple Garak: Fine.

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Linsue!

Linsue: huggssssss

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Mr T just cale dme

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: huggs back

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: this is a tour for loyal scifi fans only

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: heh

Linsue: great Glad I made it then

Plain, simple Garak: Cool stuff....

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: bear in mind you will be turned into ghosts

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: as we go from locale to locale

Linsue: ok

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: but mr t will sort that out

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: right mr t

Mr. Templeton: for once I am yours to control stig

Linsue: Mr T how are you?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: well that's a first

Mr. Templeton: I'm doing well thank you, very positive this week

[Stig Redfin of the Ukrann is now following you.]

Linsue: Thats good to hear

Mr. Templeton: how are you?

Linsue: What is this a view of?

Plain, simple Garak: Vulka.....

Mr. Templeton: This is the planet Vulka

Linsue: I am great as always!<grin><grin>

Linsue: coooooool

Mr. Templeton: Thanks for all the jokes and stuff, I opnly just got everything just before the tour

Mr. Templeton: Masses of email to plow through because the server was down

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: But he did yours first because I made him <grin>

Linsue: THats ok If I swamp you yell enough ok?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Ha

Linsue: LOL you looking for milkshake cards Stig?

Mr. Templeton: shall we carry on with the tour, mail is no problem makes a change from the dull stuff

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: yes

Plain, simple Garak: Sure.

Linsue: ok<grin><grin>

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: no luck so far

[Entering Locale: View 2]

[You have entered as a ghost; avatars are not allowed in this locale.]

[Plain, simple Garak is now following you.]

Mr. Templeton: stig, you have to get a shorter name

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: heh

Linsue: LOL

Plain, simple Garak: Hazy....

Plain, simple Garak: Looks like Texas. <grin>

Mr. Templeton: it's a scorcher of a day down there

Linsue: looks like it

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: always hot on Vulka

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: the miners hate it

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: but it's going to be a great place to come for jewellery and stuff

Plain, simple Garak: Good!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: -- all that mining turns up some nice stones

Linsue: coool

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: though no ost ones, Linsue

Mr. Templeton: ost ones?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: lost... sorry!

Linsue: Hey I managed to get another lost stone the other day

Mr. Templeton: not for a huge amount, I hope

Mr. Templeton: is everyone following me again?

Linsue: not too bad

Plain, simple Garak: Yes, I am.

Linsue: not like some I've seen 2.5k

Mr. Templeton: yike

[Linsue is now following you.]

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: that grigor still owes me!

[Entering Locale: Green Door]

[You have entered as a ghost; avatars are not allowed in this locale.]

<ESP to Linsue: will just pass through here>

<ESP to Linsue: these are the doors to the various turfs>

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: Following not working????>

<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: will just pass through here>

<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: you not down here with me?>

[Entering Locale: Living Quarters]

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: No - Following does not appear to work.>

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: I set it....>

<ESP from Linsue: we seem to have got left behind>

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: Go left?>

Linsue: more turfs?

Mr. Templeton: that's the probl;em with these secret tours

Mr. Templeton: the unexpected <grin>

Linsue: LOL lots of summoning

Mr. Templeton: hipefully, yes

[Plain, simple Garak is now following you.]

Mr. Templeton: better get stig, goodness knows where he has gone

Linsue: LOL

Mr. Templeton: i hope thats you stig

Linsue: Stig getting lost again?

Mr. Templeton: lagging here

Plain, simple Garak: Stig doesn't navigate well - for a Tour Guide, that is... <grin>

Linsue: wow thiought you'd gone to Bognor Regis again

Plain, simple Garak: No offense... <grin>

Mr. Templeton: I don't think there's any art to load in the background, so lets get out of here

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Whew

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: No there is art, it's just your crap mac

Mr. Templeton: watch it!

Plain, simple Garak: LOL - That the new model line?

Linsue: I only have part of a background looks incomplete

Mr. Templeton: The juke box thing in the background would be too stram musicv, which is part of the pc client most people use

Plain, simple Garak: Apple, Macintosh, and Crap....

Mr. Templeton: stream music

Linsue: That would be coo;

Mr. Templeton: I dont have the background

Linsue: cool even

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Id do but am lagging, sorry

[Stig Redfin of the Ukrann is now following you.]

Plain, simple Garak: Yes, middle frame has background. Other two (or three) do not....

Linsue: thats right

Plain, simple Garak: Right behind you, Mr. T.

Linsue: PSG you been shopping again I see

Plain, simple Garak: ...that's the one that has a scene.

Linsue: or did that furry thing attack you

Plain, simple Garak: No, I've had this for a couple of weeks. An AvatarWares item.

Mr. Templeton: anyway, hopefully this will be a tuf area, but the inworld team were trying to cut down on the number if uused ones to save server space

Linsue: THought it was a gribbit

Mr. Templeton: turf area, even

Mr. Templeton: No, no gribbits yet

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: a gribbit? doubtful, not on Vulka

Linsue: They could cut down the number of turf locales in vz a lot

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: But they might have adapted

Plain, simple Garak: I think that the travel time between Turf areas needs to be decreased.

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: yeah, I want more turfs in scifi!

Linsue: dont need turfs in all the areas

Plain, simple Garak: Better to not establish too many new ones, until that gets solved.

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: No, mayb just a couple more planets and cut down on the number in space city, what do you think mr t?

Mr. Templeton: haven't checked how many are available recently

Mr. Templeton: let's go outside...

[Entering Locale: Outside Green door]

[You have entered as a ghost; avatars are not allowed in this locale.]

Plain, simple Garak: Aahhh - Behind the Green Door (erm, Outside, I mean...)

Linsue: you could have some really cool red and orange sprays here

Mr. Templeton: I think we'll head back after this, the de ghosting thin makes this a bit long winded!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: yeah, that's a good idea

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: I like ornage sprays Linsue

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: We need some more a sprays in the zone, i think

Linsue: not much around in reds and orange

Linsue: specially different combos

Mr. Templeton: One idea we had for this area was to have some miners diggings... a maze... but Cuz beat us to the punch on that one!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: well, we did suggest it to her... not your fault the world went down

Mr. Templeton: true

Plain, simple Garak: It really has a nice look.

Linsue: Well we just have to come up with something..an underground trip down a mine would be fun

Mr. Templeton: All the planets are very different

Mr. Templeton: It would be nice to have a rock monster here, too, like the Horta for Trek

Plain, simple Garak: Or the one in Galaxy Quest....

Mr. Templeton: you could sit on it and it would satrt to move!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: yeah!

Mr. Templeton: trust him to wander off

Mr. Templeton: OK, let's head back... black hole bar?

Plain, simple Garak: Sure....

[You have been teleported.]

[Entering Locale: Technos Surface]

[Entering Locale: Technos Intersection]

[Entering Locale: The Arctuary]

[Entering Locale: The Black Hole Bar]

Linsue: Sorry I poofed

Mr. Templeton: where's stig?

Mr. Templeton: no worries

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Hi, I think I wandered too far

Mr. Templeton: You area scamp

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: So what did you think of our secret tou Garak?

Linsue: What did I miss?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: oops, mayb we have tired him out with all that teleporting

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: we jsut went to Aqua

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: just

Linsue: oh just<grin><grin>

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: heh

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Well, there was no-one around and we want to persaude garak to buy the planet!

Mr. Templeton: Hah

Plain, simple Garak: I'm thinking of investing.....

Mr. Templeton: I think he has better things to spend his tokens on!

Linsue: That would be a great idea

Mr. Templeton: I think it would be cool to have an area devoted to merchandise -- Vulka may be the right planet for a tie in with your site

Plain, simple Garak: That would be wonderful. Make it a real trading and selling area....

Mr. Templeton: I am working on a new strategy document so if you have any ideas you think I should add in, now is the time!

Mr. Templeton: That gores for you too Linsue

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: yeah

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: and me

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: More yarble milk

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: more buttered scones for all

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: We're working on a new plan for scif.... so we can get Aqua opened

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: and make a big promotion out of it for members

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: new items and things

Linsue: LOL always hungry Stig

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: hey, mr t, there's no one else around, why not show them our secret weapon?

Linsue: PSG and I want to organise some kind of event in scifi too

Mr. Templeton: I don't know

Plain, simple Garak: Weapon??

Plain, simple Garak: Yes, Linsue and I have been talking about such an event.

Mr. Templeton: hang on then, but this is a BIG secret....

[You have been teleported.]

[Entering Locale: Peter Chamberlain's backstage]

[Entering Locale: Cyril's Shed]

[Entering Locale: Englands Workshop]

[You have been teleported.]

[Entering Locale: Technos Surface]

[Entering Locale: Technos Intersection]

[Entering Locale: The Arctuary]

[Entering Locale: The Black Hole Bar]

Plain, simple Garak: I thought he was off to unlock the secret...

Linsue: HEHEHEHE

Plain, simple Garak: And is that a custom head?

Mr. Templeton: real head

Linsue: That is soooo cool

Mr. Templeton: not mine tho!

Plain, simple Garak: Wow!

Plain, simple Garak: Whose?

Linsue: Gee thats a great concept

Mr. Templeton: one of the old europe team

Mr. Templeton: the prob is, they would have to be done as avatarwares

Mr. Templeton: because of the time involved in creating them

Linsue: custom heads like the custom sprays only paid in $

Mr. Templeton: yeah

Linsue: That would make BIG $$$

Mr. Templeton: but i think something like this is perhaps worth paying for?

Plain, simple Garak: Wow. That should generate some cash...

Linsue: much better than anime

Linsue: what about bodied too

Mr. Templeton: depends what your head looks like<grin>

Plain, simple Garak: How much would you anticipate something like that going for?

Linsue: I could be pamela anderson LOL

Mr. Templeton: there's more involved in the tech to bodies

Mr. Templeton: but it needs looking at

Mr. Templeton: hag on

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: i dont see what all the fuss is about..., this is my real head

Linsue: what are you paying for anime heads now?

Plain, simple Garak: About $10 each, I think.

Linsue: Well we are not all as handsome as you Stig

Plain, simple Garak: Some of the newer ones may be a bit more.

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: aw

Linsue: Those could go for a lot more

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: most heads are $15 now...

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: or less

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: I think they were looking at more for photo heads

Plain, simple Garak: Well, it's a custom.

Linsue: yes they would be worth a lot more

Plain, simple Garak: That's understandable.

Mr. Templeton: I think it could go down well. and you could really lose your own head!

Linsue: and a limited no of each one allowed too??

Mr. Templeton: exactly

Linsue: What a really great idea

Mr. Templeton: I assume there is some means for people to recover avatarware items if they lose them?

Plain, simple Garak: Any copyright issues, if someone were to want to create something using a character from a licensed properties?

Linsue: I would think so

Linsue: Yes I think there would be

Mr. Templeton: Well,yes there would be because in the US you have far more copyright control over such a likeness

Mr. Templeton: Hiya!

Mã§têr Joêy: theres flippen people here.

Plain, simple Garak: Yep...!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Heh hah

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: we like to surprise people

Mã§têr Joêy: i havent seen anyone anywhere. lol

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: how ae you today

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Well you're here and so are we

Linsue: Hi Joey

Mã§têr Joêy: i am good. thanks.

Mã§têr Joêy: how is everyone else.

Linsue: We are always here somewhere

Mr. Templeton: he poofed

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: ok, who spiked my mlk?

Linsue: feeling pooft Stig

Linsue: Thats the question I was asking too...thought you spiked mine

Linsue: made me change colour

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: heh

Plain, simple Garak: What about using Action Figures for heads? Would that have copyright implications?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: you should be careful with those gribbit bites

Linsue: (mmm Can I trust you??)

Mr. Templeton: dunno

Mr. Templeton: if hasbro found out they might take issue

Plain, simple Garak: That would be very cool....

Linsue: Sure it was a gribbet bite

Plain, simple Garak: Right.

Mr. Templeton: the probelm would be getting enough detail in the picture

Mr. Templeton: but you could have hasbro figure running around in here as a promo!

Plain, simple Garak: Right!!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: ha toys come to life!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: what a great idea!

Plain, simple Garak: (Always thinking Merchandise...)

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: heh

Linsue: LOL Please no pokemons

Mr. Templeton: why am I not surprised

Mr. Templeton: ha

Mr. Templeton: ]sssh

<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: have to keep this queit for now <sigh>>

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: Of course.>

Mã§têr Joêy: how do i get back to. umm earth i guess you could say. lol

<ESP to Linsue: have to keep the heads thing quiet for now... >

Mã§têr Joêy: i have been walking around forever

<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: I was trying to be careful when Joey was here....>

Mã§têr Joêy: and now i finally see some people. so i can ask. lol

Mr. Templeton: hang on, I can teleport you if you want, but there is also a secret door I can show you

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: i'll do it its my job

Mã§têr Joêy: oh thank you.

<ESP from Linsue: sure NP>

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: follow me

Linsue: Let Stig earn his pittance

Linsue: I have some really great questions for the Lying game later

Mr. Templeton: Cool

Linsue: I think we're going to have some fun tonight

Linsue: Then straight after I have to fill in in AOD

Mr. Templeton: AOD?

Linsue: give me some ideas for some questions for there please

Linsue: An Online Date

Plain, simple Garak: YOu want date-type of questions?

Linsue: anything no theme

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: ta da

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: that is my good deed done for the daqy

Linsue: WB<grin>

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: what we doing?

Plain, simple Garak: (Hmmmm. Easier if there is a theme....)

Linsue: Much easier

Mr. Templeton: Lying Game questions

Linsue: Trying to think of some lying game questions

Linsue: I have been asked to fill in another game later

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: If I was wearing a hat what color would it be

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: If the Pope was not the ope what would he really be doing

Linsue: need questions that require more than a one word answer

Plain, simple Garak: Wow, Stig's a brainy little devil, ain't he?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: ok

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: could be a flowery hat

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: or a hat with a big boa attached

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: If you saw a snake in your toilet what would you do

Linsue: LOL

Plain, simple Garak: lol!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: ... hmm, that one was too rude

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: not the snake one

Mr. Templeton: please, no hamster jokes

Plain, simple Garak: Boy, the weather is bad here. It's so bad, _________________.

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: good one

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: If I didn't use my aquarium for fish, I would uses it for .......

Linsue: hehehe

Plain, simple Garak: ty!!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: If a ghost appeared in my bedroom right now I would........

Mr. Templeton: ask it to turn out the light because I am too lazy

Linsue: Stigs good!!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: as always

Plain, simple Garak: Will be afk for a minute...

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: If my favourite tv show was pre-empted by a presidential debate I would ......

Mr. Templeton: k

Mr. Templeton: boli my head

Mr. Templeton: boil

Mr. Templeton: everyone has gone to sleep Stig

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: it happens

Linsue: Not me I am typing furiously LOL

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: and there was me thinking my devastating wit would keep people up

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: heh

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Mr T is transcribing everyting as we speak

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: isn't there a pc plug in that does that?

Mr. Templeton: yeah, it's a mac thing called wa transcripter

Linsue: yes there is there is one called get text DOH I should be using it!

Plain, simple Garak: There's a PC one, too. Linsue has it, I think....

Mr. Templeton: It's handy for the events, it means I don't have to save messages every so often

Plain, simple Garak: I used it during my Trivia game, just in case there were any problems....

Mr. Templeton: If I was reading a comic and it started raining i would..........

Mr. Templeton: that was a question btw

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: we guessed

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: good idea garak

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: saves arguments later

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: hey waht time is it?

Linsue: almoat 11vzt

Plain, simple Garak: There's a new book out that helps people with relationship problems. It is called ______________.

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: 6.40, sok, not time to go just yet

Mr. Templeton: Big Bill's Guide to Sex, heh!

Plain, simple Garak: Who is Bill?

Mr. Templeton: well, he'll have to take up something when he leaves the Oval office

Plain, simple Garak: (Duh.....)

Linsue: LOL

Mr. Templeton: and he's had plenty of practice, allegedly

Plain, simple Garak: Admittedly....

Mr. Templeton: JMS was online slating Mr Bush, btw.... but perhaps we shouldn't get into politics

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: no dont, otherwsie shiren will be back

Linsue: mm would you want to follow his example ?? LOL

Linsue: Tonights scifi game foocusses a lot on Shiren

Plain, simple Garak: Alec Baldwin has announced that he is planning to leave the US if Bush gets elected. What a shame - that will only leave us with three others.

Mr. Templeton: LOL

Linsue: gees my spelling sucks and I havent even touched my drink yet

Mr. Templeton: ha ha

Linsue: hehehe

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: lol

Plain, simple Garak: i/w or r/w?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: We dont know that much about shiren...

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: other than what is on his web page...

Mr. Templeton: and that really needs updating

Plain, simple Garak: Shiren needs to get his Diaries posted sometime...

Mr. Templeton: Groan...

Mr. Templeton: Can you imagine? Got up, meditated

Linsue: LOL

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: went to sleep. insulted a hoom

Plain, simple Garak: (Hmmm... Noticed a few duplicate sections on his page today...)

Mr. Templeton: Yeah it needs tidying up

Linsue: Insulted Stig

Linsue: insulted Stig again

Linsue: LOL

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: lol

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: We do actually like each other, belive it or not

Linsue: I know you do

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: he'd never go anywhere if it wasn't for me

Linsue: Its like sibling rivalry

Mr. Templeton: I would like to spend some time putting some more of the tours on the site

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: hey don't gfo round saying we are brothers!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: I couldn't st5and the embrassment

Linsue: The first transcript you did had me in stiches

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: though come to think of it, it could help get some deals

Linsue: What kind of deals?

Mr. Templeton: well, i have transcripts of them all, right back to the first one

Linsue: Specilas on meditation beads

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: better bar rates, for one

Linsue: Dont count on it

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: cheaper turf prices in space city as a broether of the T'chellian envoy

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: yeah, you're right, he would find out and then I would be in toruble

Linsue: hehe probably make you pay double if you fill it with seepweed

Mr. Templeton: yes because you would probably tell him

Plain, simple Garak: You're almost always in trouble, aren't you Stig?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Yep! <grin>

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: But it keeps life interesting

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: never a dull day when I am around

Linsue: Thats true

Linsue: Mr T whats happening with the petrol?

Linsue: LOL

Mr. Templeton: dont know and dont care

Plain, simple Garak: Disguise?

Mr. Templeton: the people who did the strike were selfish gits

Mr. Templeton: yep,, do you think it works

Linsue: not really

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: i'm fooled,not

Linsue: your colour is a dead giveaway

Mr. Templeton: hmm

Mr. Templeton: the petrol thing annoys me...

Mr. Templeton: because if the unions did that kind of thing they would have been arrested and beaten by the police

Mr. Templeton: like the miners were in 1974

Linsue: Ours is going up again next week by another 13cents

Mr. Templeton: even after a democratic ballot of their members

Mr. Templeton: I do think the petrol price needs looking at but we also have tyo think about the consequences of so much car use

Linsue: mm Remember the opening line from the Lion King movie?

Mr. Templeton: most people use their cars too much

Mr. Templeton: which one...?

Linsue: Life's not fair..

Linsue: LOL

Linsue: Scar's first words

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: When i think about those penguins and that oil spill... Mr T is right

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Meow?

Linsue: Of course he is right

Mr. Templeton: doesn't mean people shouldn't have cars, I'm not anti car

Mr. Templeton: especially when public transport is pretty poor

Mr. Templeton: and not safe late at night for some folks

Linsue: no but we need to find an alternate pwoer saurce

Mr. Templeton: yeah

Linsue: power even

Mr. Templeton: it's pretty pathetic that even now in the 21st century we depend on the remains of some dead trees to get around

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: lol

Linsue: put like that it does sound pretty ridiculous

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: what happend to that americna guy who worked out how to make water into fuel?

Plain, simple Garak: Oh-oh. An electric car fanatic? Maybe water-based fuel?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: yeah, it was something like that

Linsue: water would be cool..fill up with the garden hose

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: which is probably why we have never heard about if again... can you imagine?

Linsue: It will come then we will have water restrictions all over

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: I read somewhere that it wasn't until the big business4es had bought up all the copper and the glas that they said solar cells could work

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: water is going to be a big issue for you folks

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: I pity the people in the middle east, where Turkey is damming a river and will cause some major problems

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: I can see their dam casuing a war you know

Linsue: MM People always have to fight over something dont they

Mr. Templeton: Yeah, Tom Clancy has that in one of his books as a potential threat to peace

Mr. Templeton: yep

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: yeah, mr t give me my mustache back or I will have to bop you <grin>

Linsue: LOL

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: heh

Linsue: Mr T what time is the next author event scheduled for?

Mr. Templeton: hey folks, I am going to have to go really soon.... it was a great tour

Mr. Templeton: 4th October.... I will have times in the next mailing and update the web site

Linsue: ok I need to see if I need to change my game

Mr. Templeton: that's Yvonnes'... I think we're doing that 9.00ma VZT

Mr. Templeton: Storm one is 8.00pm GMT the next day, which is 12 noon vzt

Linsue: thats a wed

Plain, simple Garak: OK. It was nice to run into you, Mr. T!

Mr. Templeton: then we have another on the 12th, hoefully, and one on the 26th

Linsue: ok thats my game time so I need to cancel that game

Linsue: all at the same time?

Mr. Templeton: sorry ... and i have been talking to the people rtunning the witches and warlocks event about getting a

Mr. Templeton: fantsay writer in for the 29th

Mr. Templeton: time will depend on where the writers live

Linsue: np

Mr. Templeton: so I can't confirm right now

Mr. Templeton: and we also have to finalise the dates

Linsue: ok well I'll put something in the forum then

Linsue: for Storms date

Mr. Templeton: you could always run it an hour earlier, perhaps?

Mr. Templeton: how long do they take?

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: Mr T doesn't play games either <grin>

Linsue: about an hour...I'll have to talk to my sponsor

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: it's a good idea, rather than cancel completely

Linsue: ok will check schedule

Mr. Templeton: yes, and then there are people aroound, too, but I wouldn't want to hack people off who wanted prizes

Linsue: that will come straight after the tour then

Mr. Templeton: and we had to hurry them out of the room

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: well, we could end the tour in the room...

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: and I could make sure it runs to time

Linsue: thats a good idea

Linsue: LOL

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: 9 - 10...

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: no promises mind lol

Linsue: and I will makesure the questions are short too

Plain, simple Garak: (Never any promises from Stig...)

Mr. Templeton: nope lol

Mr. Templeton: well, we had better head out, right stig

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: aw...

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: but yes, we do need to get some tea

Linsue: Aww<sigh><sigh>

Plain, simple Garak: Tea time...

Linsue: food again Stig??

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: hungry!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: <grin>

Plain, simple Garak: Yikes!!!

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: greatvteeth, huh?

Linsue: LOL

Stig Redfin of the Ukrann: all my own too

Plain, simple Garak: Nice couple of rows....

Mr. Templeton: so you say

Linsue: A dentists ream

Plain, simple Garak: lol....

Linsue: dream even

Mr. Templeton: ack, now I am going, if we are going to talk about dentists

Linsue: ok sorry change the subject

Mr. Templeton: see you later everyone!

Mr. Templeton: thanks for your time and ideas

Linsue: Bye Mr T

Plain, simple Garak: Bye, T!!

Mr. Templeton: very much appreciated

Plain, simple Garak: Sure.

Linsue: YW<grin>

Plain, simple Garak: anytime....