Dreamscape Town Meeting - July 29th, 2000

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Original article courtesy of the Virtual Planet newspaper.

Michael (Avaterra): Hi everyone!

Acolyte Voodoo Cat: huggs Michael

Michael (Avaterra): Good to be here.

Acolyte Kashmir: that it is

Michael (Avaterra): Okay... I only have few announcements before we can start taking questions.

Michael (Avaterra): First, the multi avatar login -- this probably highly annoys you by now, however, it will take at least another week before

Michael (Avaterra): we can continue to enable this feature on the acocunts that do not already have it.

Michael (Avaterra): Once some things are sorted out, I'll send a note to the Dreamscape papers.

Michael (Avaterra): so just keep an eye on the news for updates.

Michael (Avaterra): Second ... some of you have heard that Delilah resigned late last week. This is a bit of a confusing issue, so

Michael (Avaterra): let me give you the info I have.

Michael (Avaterra): It is true that Delilah resigned, and that she also posted a public announcement. After talking to

Michael (Avaterra): some friends and staff members she seemed to be willing to think about it, and thus the sysops moved the

Michael (Avaterra): resignation announcement. This basically is the current status. Hopefully by early next we will have

Michael (Avaterra): more detailed and accurate information.

Michael (Avaterra): This is all I have .... Kash, ready?

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Acolyte Kashmir: Mijage

Michael (Avaterra): Hi Mijage!

Acolyte Kashmir: hiya Mij

Mijage: howdy folks

Mijage: Will the temporary ban on CT's making items have any effect on the head painting coming?

Michael (Avaterra): The temporary "ban" on using the "fiddle" (creation tool) should be lifted by

Michael (Avaterra): next weeks. The technical staff asked us to limit the fiddle usage until some server and database issues have been resolved.

Michael (Avaterra): The purpose is to make sure that the worlds don't crash again -- I don't think you and I could

Michael (Avaterra): handle another downtime

Mijage: heck no

Michael (Avaterra): The head painting should not be affected by this - since this was not scheduled prior to

Michael (Avaterra): next week, anyway.

Mijage: ok, thanks

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Acolyte Kashmir: Zipman

Michael (Avaterra): Hi, Zipman!

Michael (Avaterra): Nice pizza!

Zipman: ack macro quit one min

Caretaker gloree: technical troubles?

Zipman: wont work

Zipman: is the chessroom

Zipman: numbers going to be put in

Acolyte Kashmir: Zip wanted numbers on the chess board for tourney play

Michael (Avaterra): I think Electra was going to do that -- it was suggested (by you?) shortly before the town time..

Michael (Avaterra): down time

Michael (Avaterra): Gloree...

Caretaker gloree: yes?

Michael (Avaterra): Feel like doing this?

Caretaker gloree: sure

Caretaker gloree: there was a screen shot yes?

Zipman: and will i ever get my dule ave use

Michael (Avaterra): Electra will be back next week ... but if you have some time and would like to add the letters,

Michael (Avaterra): that would be great.

Zipman: yes i will get it for you g

Caretaker gloree: sure will, I need the screen shot

Caretaker gloree: can you send to me zipman?

Caretaker gloree: k

Caretaker gloree: no worry

Michael (Avaterra): Electra is spending time with her daughter and her granddaughter - they are visiting.

Zipman: yep

Michael (Avaterra): starting next week you should see her around much more often again

Caretaker gloree:

Zipman: what about dule ave thing

Zipman: i still don't heve it

Michael (Avaterra): Like I said, there are some problems that need to be sorted out before

Michael (Avaterra): the multi avatar logins can be enabled again.

Michael (Avaterra): It will take about another week.

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Acolyte Kashmir: BreezByYou

BreezByYou: greets

Acolyte Kashmir: Breez

Michael (Avaterra): Greetings.

BreezByYou: was just curious... about whether the beach turfs will still be ?

Michael (Avaterra): Yes, but the opening of the beach turfs has been delayed -- mainly because of

Michael (Avaterra): the server trouble. We cannot add new regions (locales) before Lambert and WildBill feel that

Michael (Avaterra): it won't cause technical problems. It is not likely that it would, however, I

Michael (Avaterra): think it's better to be safe than sorry.

BreezByYou: yes me too

BreezByYou: thanks

Michael (Avaterra): But they are built and ready to go ... so as soon as we can open them, we will.

BreezByYou: awesome

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Fancy: Howdy Howdy! Welcome Back Micheal!

Fancy: FancyHugss Yall!

Caretaker gloree:

Fancy: I love the Anime Items!..

Fancy: When May we expect some New stuff Please..

Fancy:

Michael (Avaterra): Hi Fancy!

Fancy:

Michael (Avaterra): New stuff as in new items... or new anime?

Fancy: the Catalos items

Fancy: cause they are killer !

Fancy: Catolog even

Fancy: shoot i bad speller

Michael (Avaterra): Probably by mid of August ... some of the items will change,

Michael (Avaterra): and some new ones will be added-.

Fancy: stuff in Not in the vendo

Michael (Avaterra): so, about in 2-3 weeks, not sooner.

Fancy: at avatar wares

Michael (Avaterra): not much later either.

Fancy: ahh

Fancy: Yhank You

Fancy: hehe

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Michael (Avaterra): Hi there!

Brother Ethereal: Ack Breez took my queston LOL Talk to ya later michael!

Caretaker gloree: lol

Caretaker gloree: easy one

Brother Ethereal: That was fun

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Acolyte Kashmir: £adie §in

Caretaker gloree: uh oh

Acolyte Kashmir: LS

Caretaker gloree: esp me ladie sin

Acolyte Kashmir: esp gloee

Caretaker gloree: will get my text grabber up

Michael (Avaterra): hehe ..

Michael (Avaterra): Hello!

£adie §in: sorry lag sorta

£adie §in: greets

£adie §in: i was wonderin that since the down time and server crash that if we not gonna get all the stuff added to Ds< meaning new items>

Michael (Avaterra): It is only temporary -- until next week or so. It's not going to be permanent.

£adie §in: ok thanks

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Michael (Avaterra): The original "ban" only lasted three days, and we cna now use the building tools whenever necessary, but

Michael (Avaterra): were asked to cut down on the usage for a few more days.

May B : Hi,

Michael (Avaterra): Hi there!

Acolyte Kashmir: hiya May

May B : will those who left during the crash be able to get a refund on the months membership ?

Michael (Avaterra): You will not be charged for July, or so I was told.

Michael (Avaterra): I think David Andrews said this in the forum, so this is official.

May B : great thank you

Michael (Avaterra): for those that have pre-paid already ... I would think that they get an

Michael (Avaterra): additional month added.

May B : and well done for getting us back up

Caretaker gloree: amen to that

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Acolyte Kashmir: Honey-Chief Golden Knight

Michael (Avaterra): they did an outstanding job.

Michael (Avaterra): Hi Honey!

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: Hello

Acolyte Kashmir: hiya Honey

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: 2 questions please

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: First, will there be any adjustment or extension on turf rent due dates?

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: since we missed half a month of earning Ts during the downtime?

Michael (Avaterra): As it stands now, this seems impossible (technically).

Michael (Avaterra): Looking into different solution,s such as giving everyone a box

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: of Ts?

Michael (Avaterra): with tokens that would cover the rent for the most expensive turf.

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: cool

Michael (Avaterra): Instead of extending the rent due dates..

Honey-Chief Golden Knight:

Michael (Avaterra): so the free tokens idea seems to be best. The device would give everyone only one box.

Michael (Avaterra): Um. Good point.

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: was curious because many of us have more than 1 turf

Michael (Avaterra): Erm... if you have 20 turfs ... you are rich and don't need any boxes?

Acolyte Kashmir: nice try

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: lol...we are property rich and token poor?

Michael (Avaterra): True - can we assume that everyone has two turfs, average?

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: just a guess but I would think most have at least 2

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: most I know have at least 1 residence and 1 storage

Michael (Avaterra): well, we aren't charging membership fee for this month (ok, I have to try ) .... the thing is, we

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: some of us oldbie pack rats have multiple storages

Michael (Avaterra): cannot give everyone 20k or so. That would really hurt the economy.

Michael (Avaterra): so everyone (each avatar) gets a box with tokens that cover

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: just wanted to mention it for possible consideration on solutions

Michael (Avaterra): the rent for two turfs ...?

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: anything helps

Michael (Avaterra): since everyone has two avatars, it's basically rent for four turfs.

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: 2nd question is: When may we expect delivery on animeware orders placed before the crash?

Michael (Avaterra): Hopefully by end of next week -- if not sooner.

Honey-Chief Golden Knight: Thank you

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Michael (Avaterra): I didn't have to deal with the anime artwork delivery and creation up until now,

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Acolyte Kashmir: Shawn

Michael (Avaterra): so I am still trying to get the stuff straight ... and find some vi.. er, people to

Michael (Avaterra): help us with this project.

Shawn: WASSSSSSSUUUUUUUUP =->

Acolyte Kashmir: already a victim, don't look here

Shawn: hehehe

Michael (Avaterra): Hello!

Shawn: Michael, great to see u as a avatar

Shawn: and greetings Ladies

Michael (Avaterra): Kash is already volunteered. She spends too much time playing in the forum.

Michael (Avaterra): rut ro

Acolyte Kashmir: evil tabby

Michael (Avaterra): Hi Shawn

Shawn: my quistion is, Is that avatarwares Accepting orders now , and if so when u update the catalog is it all heads from other worlds owned by Avaterra and Fujitsu?

Shawn: or is it new animation

Michael (Avaterra): I think right now we are not accepted new orders -- not before the old ones have been delivered.

Michael (Avaterra): AvatarWares basically works like this: Avaterra has bought a bunch of

Michael (Avaterra): heads, accessories and items -- licensed them. These are the object we are

Michael (Avaterra): offering via AvatarWares.

Michael (Avaterra): It is not our "original" artwork ... which is why it's not available in vendos.

Shawn: so we are not being issued heads from the japenese worlds like Glasscity?

Shawn: or that other one i forget the names

Shawn: habitat

Shawn: thanks Kathryn

Michael (Avaterra): Yes and no -- we have some of the GC heads (quite a few actually),

Michael (Avaterra): but not all of them.

Michael (Avaterra): same with Habitat heads. some of those are among the artwork Avaterra purchased.

Michael (Avaterra): They also have some our heads.

Shawn: ok thankies bro good to see ya here and gooodbye Gloree and Kash =->

Caretaker gloree: byeeee

Shawn: 1 lasty thing

Acolyte Kashmir: bye Shawn

Shawn: hehe

Caretaker gloree: lol hope .. heyyyyy

Caretaker gloree: lol

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Acolyte Kashmir: Zedd

Zedd: Hello All And WB!!

Caretaker gloree: welcome home to you too

Zedd: nevr been sucked outta cloud before LOL

Caretaker gloree: lol

Zedd: First one thing....Micheal TY for all you have done

Michael (Avaterra): Hi there.

Michael (Avaterra): aww - thank you.

Zedd: Please accept this token of friendship from me and many other avatars that appreciate all you have done

Zedd:

Zedd: My original ? have been answered but I have one other one

Michael (Avaterra): Thank you.

Zedd: After the crash we are not able to access my daughters account

Zedd: says account and password do not match

Zedd: have there been any other problems?

Acolyte Kashmir: you need to email support and they can fix that Zedd

Zedd: ok....TY

Zedd: ok and TY for all your help again

Michael (Avaterra): I haven't heard anout similar problems after the crash.

Zedd: ok will email support

Zedd:

Michael (Avaterra): I don't think the member database was affected, but it's possible that

Michael (Avaterra): some bits and bytes got scared and run off.

Zedd: LOL

Michael (Avaterra): emailing support is the best idea

Zedd: hell we all got scared

Zedd: ok I will email them

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Acolyte Kashmir: *Starr*

*Starr*: Greetings!

Michael (Avaterra): Hello!

*Starr*: I just wanted to say that i am very glad that everything is back to normal and everyone is back home!

Caretaker gloree: hugggs Starr

*Starr*: hugs

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Michael (Avaterra): thankyou -- and hugs.

Acolyte Kashmir: Sukubus

Sukubus: Hi all

Michael (Avaterra): Hi there!

Acolyte Kashmir: huggs Suk

Sukubus: Okies...This question comes from the Vampyre Lisette

Caretaker gloree: hiya

Sukubus: My rw flatmate

Sukubus: lol

Acolyte Kashmir: lol huggs Lis

Sukubus: Why were we not informed of the true reason for the downtime straight away

Sukubus: Rather than being told it was just routine maintenance?

Sukubus: If we had been told it may have prevented the rumours from spreading and saved sys ops lots of time and stress.

Sukubus: HUggs Kash

Michael (Avaterra): It started as routine maintenance -- and then the hard drive died.

Michael (Avaterra): our tech, who had not been with us for several month and returned to

Sukubus: oh...okies....she was just wonderin'

Michael (Avaterra): help us, was not familiar with some drastic changes the former techs did,

Michael (Avaterra): and those were not willing to help... or not capable of helping. Besides WildBill, we also had

Michael (Avaterra): Lambert Ma (tech), Steve Whyte (programmer) and David Peterson (lead programmer) working

Michael (Avaterra): on the server -- plus the SWAT volunteers.

Michael (Avaterra): The financial problems were a different issues... they did affect all of this, too, but

Michael (Avaterra): were not the actual reason for this mega downtime

Sukubus: Thankyou....from me and lis

Sukubus: Its good to be home

Michael (Avaterra): It sure is

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Acolyte Kashmir: Lorne - Golden Knight

Lorne - Golden Knight: Hello

Lorne - Golden Knight: Michael, I'd just like to thank you for all the hard work you've done for getting the servers back up and for keeping the world in shape during these last few hectic weeks. Keep up the good work And a quick question....

Michael (Avaterra): Hi Lorne!

Lorne - Golden Knight: Do you know when we can expect to see the mages returning to the Jungle? And perhaps the sisters to Med park?

Michael (Avaterra): I cannot take the credit -- it was really the tech's and SWAT team's work, and they deserve all the thanks.

Michael (Avaterra): Engraving can resume next week as well....

Michael (Avaterra): and the sisters ...

Michael (Avaterra): .. that reminds me that I have been missing this one pesky sister that keeps pulling my tail

Lorne - Golden Knight: LOL

Michael (Avaterra): engraving probably not before the 8th... that is, erm, almost next week

Lorne - Golden Knight: Hehe

Lorne - Golden Knight: I look forward to it

Michael (Avaterra): Me too ...

Lorne - Golden Knight: Thank you for your help See you later

Michael (Avaterra): ...not to the tail pulling, though.

Michael (Avaterra): Bye

Lorne - Golden Knight: LOL

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Acolyte Kashmir: §è® Àrris

Acolyte Kashmir: Se, esp her now

Michael (Avaterra): LOL

Acolyte Kashmir: lets see gloree work hard for this one

§è® Àrris : can i come down plz

Michael (Avaterra): Hello!

Caretaker gloree: lol I got my text grabber now

§è® Àrris : Will we be getting new Vendo items?

Michael (Avaterra): For those that wonder ... in order to summon someone, a CT has to type in the

Michael (Avaterra): actual name...

Michael (Avaterra): which sometimes can be challenging

Caretaker gloree: lol yes

Michael (Avaterra): Yes, you will of course get new vendo items.

§è® Àrris : and if so can you give us an idea of what

Michael (Avaterra): There will be additional furniture items ... I think the CTs were discussing some south-west style stuff,

Michael (Avaterra): plus of course the normal vendo rotation.

Michael (Avaterra): new colours, new items ... the usual.

§è® Àrris : Thankies

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Acolyte Kashmir: Egyptian Goddess

Michael (Avaterra): Someone unnamed acolyte suggests Goth stuff! More Goth stuff!

Michael (Avaterra): Guess who...

Michael (Avaterra): Hello!

Egyptian Goddess: splat

Michael (Avaterra): eek!

Egyptian Goddess: and hi

Egyptian Goddess: sorry, i had to do that

Michael (Avaterra): I have been snowballed.

Acolyte Kashmir: tell me I play in the forums

Egyptian Goddess: Kash made me

Acolyte Kashmir: get splatted

Egyptian Goddess: rofl

Egyptian Goddess: esp white out

Acolyte Kashmir: LOL

Egyptian Goddess: please don't void me

Egyptian Goddess:

Egyptian Goddess: I do have a question too

Michael (Avaterra): is it, "how do I get out of the void?"

Egyptian Goddess: now dont' be mad

Acolyte Kashmir: ROFL

Egyptian Goddess: lol

Egyptian Goddess: pftttt

Egyptian Goddess: I assume that takes some begging

Egyptian Goddess: I was wondering.....

Egyptian Goddess: are we still gonna get a lot of things in the vmart like VZ has that big mall now? I thought this had been talked about before the crash

Egyptian Goddess: and are any anime items going to vendo?

Michael (Avaterra): The V-Mart changes are not done yet - quite a few vendos aren't

Michael (Avaterra): completely filled ... so yes, you will get more stuff there. Especially furniture items, including

Michael (Avaterra): light sources and more decent deco items.

Egyptian Goddess: can we possibly get new plants for decorating, like hanging vines and stuff?

Egyptian Goddess: pretty please?

Michael (Avaterra): yes ... I think we can do that.

Egyptian Goddess: oh boy

Michael (Avaterra): not too many... and slowly, but yes, I think the current

Michael (Avaterra): selection of plans ... um ...

Michael (Avaterra): sucks.

Egyptian Goddess: and any anime to vendos at all? cuz you scared me with this crash

Michael (Avaterra): plants, too.

Acolyte Kashmir: sucks is the technical term right?

Egyptian Goddess: it's very technical

Michael (Avaterra): No, for now no anime vendos. I know, I know, this contradicts what I said a few months ago,

Egyptian Goddess: erm...yep

Michael (Avaterra): but that is not under my control. I *would* like to release at least some of

Michael (Avaterra): the previous anime stuff with different colours.

Egyptian Goddess: okies, fair enough

Michael (Avaterra): the chockers for example, and the bags.

Egyptian Goddess: and the esps are asking for vines, windows and some flat turf paints

Egyptian Goddess: Im done...thanks Michael, huggs

Michael (Avaterra): welcome

Egyptian Goddess: if I need out of the void, I call you?

Egyptian Goddess:

Michael (Avaterra): I dislike flat turf sprays.. btw

Acolyte Kashmir: might wanna try E

Egyptian Goddess: rofl

Michael (Avaterra): But everyone seems to like them.

Egyptian Goddess: she's not on much lately...sigh

Egyptian Goddess: I bomb you with email instead Michael, I know how much you love that

Michael (Avaterra): she will be more around ... starting this week.

Acolyte Kashmir: tin can and string connections, 28.8 connection blech

Michael (Avaterra): That's a good idea.

Egyptian Goddess: thanks again

Michael (Avaterra): *goes to install a filter*

Acolyte Kashmir: ROFL

Egyptian Goddess: pfttttttt

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Acolyte Kashmir: Kryst@l too

Michael (Avaterra): so... Kash ...

Michael (Avaterra): that snowball was your idea... eh?

Acolyte Kashmir: blue void room please

Michael (Avaterra): oops.

Acolyte Kashmir: ofgs

Michael (Avaterra): I misclicked.

Caretaker gloree: lol

Michael (Avaterra): Hello

Kryst@l too: hi all

Acolyte Kashmir: I think someone lost forum flags

Acolyte Kashmir: oops

Kryst@l too: are we going to get new CT and new acolytes to replace the ones that left?

Caretaker gloree: hi

Acolyte Kashmir: hmm

Michael (Avaterra): I did not do this on purpose! Honest! I slipped!

Michael (Avaterra):

Michael (Avaterra): New CTs ...

Acolyte Kashmir: will seek revenge

Michael (Avaterra): ... no, not very soon.

Michael (Avaterra): New Acolytes ... if we need them yes.

Kryst@l too: ok thanks

Acolyte Kashmir: pfftt ghosties

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Acolyte Kashmir: Razzleberry

Michael (Avaterra): If there are times that you feel are uncovered (no acolytes around),

Acolyte Kashmir: oh hush Juls

Michael (Avaterra): please drop Caretaker Rabbit a note.

Acolyte Kashmir: oh yes

Acolyte Kashmir: ghostie reminds me

Razzleberry: Hello all

Michael (Avaterra): and tell him that his schedule really sucks. That will help.

Michael (Avaterra): Hello!

Acolyte Kashmir: it is Dae's birthday

Razzleberry: Glad you are back Michael

Razzleberry: we missed you

Acolyte Kashmir: they would like him to have pink pressies

Michael (Avaterra): Glad to be here.

Razzleberry: And Aco Kash

Acolyte Kashmir: shaddup Dae

Razzleberry: we still owe you a party for all your efforts

Razzleberry: to keep us entertained in the forums

Acolyte Kashmir: yes paint party quickly

Michael (Avaterra): The techs .... and we are preparing an apprciation event for the

Razzleberry: WEll

Michael (Avaterra): technical staff and everyone who helped to get the worlds back up.

Razzleberry: that is a little uncharacteristic

Razzleberry: That's terrific

Michael (Avaterra): But, we also need to thank all of you ... for being patient with us,

Razzleberry: And WildBill should have an account here

Razzleberry: if you want my opinion

Michael (Avaterra): and for sticking around even when everything looked really bad.

Michael (Avaterra): He does.

Razzleberry: I talked to him and he said his account was temporary

Michael (Avaterra): we have given accounts to everyone who helped getting the worlds back up,

Michael (Avaterra): for all worlds.

Razzleberry: That's great

Razzleberry: Now for the more serious business

Michael (Avaterra): Oh, it is not. I saw an email from Delilah to him, just this week.

Razzleberry: ahem

Michael (Avaterra): It is permanent

Razzleberry: WoooHooooo

Razzleberry: I will let you off easy this time

Razzleberry: heh

Razzleberry: I just want to know

Razzleberry: when DS is going to show signs of being

Razzleberry: worth twice the price of VZ

Razzleberry: as far as items are concerned

Razzleberry: I know there is no comparison of the two worlds

Razzleberry: where the people are concerned

Razzleberry: I love it here

Michael (Avaterra): Let me answer the question with a question ... what could be done that you (all of you) felt that

Razzleberry: But you promised DS would have more/better/different stuff

Razzleberry: whatever

Michael (Avaterra): Dreamscape is worth twice the price... compared toVZc?

Razzleberry: As far as the people are concerned yes

Razzleberry: But

Michael (Avaterra): yes ... you will continue to get new stuff -- you also have two avatars per account.

Razzleberry: I am not looking for an overinflated database here

Razzleberry: But

Razzleberry: For example

Razzleberry: when you remodeled V-Mart

Razzleberry: we lost all our green trees

Razzleberry: the ones that were available in the furniture displays

Razzleberry: and when you put the lava lamps in the vendo

Razzleberry: all the decent colors disappeared and now we have

Razzleberry: the worst collection I have ever seen

Razzleberry: no colors

Razzleberry: no contrast

Razzleberry: And the VZ plant selection is much better now

Razzleberry: than DS

Michael (Avaterra): you can't see them at night from 2000 miles distance anymore, that is true #

Razzleberry: that's exactly right

Razzleberry: now all lava lamps would go well in gothic turfs

Razzleberry: but nowhere else

Michael (Avaterra): Well, we have had bright lamps for quite some time, so we felt it

Michael (Avaterra): was time for some calmer colours, too.

Razzleberry: there are no colors

Razzleberry: and no contrast

Michael (Avaterra): I know not everyone is into Goth, but then again, not everyone likes bright colours, either.

Razzleberry: so why don't we have a selection?

Michael (Avaterra): They do have contrast on my screen...

Razzleberry: some of each

Razzleberry: And the Aladdin furniture

Razzleberry: is terrific

Michael (Avaterra): Point taken -- they will be rotated periodically, so the next batch will

Michael (Avaterra): contain some more colourful lava lamps.

Razzleberry: thanks

Acolyte Kashmir: ofgs

Caretaker gloree: w/b

Razzleberry: I think there should be options for everyone

Acolyte Kashmir: the humilation continues

Michael (Avaterra): The Aladin furniture... was originally restricted to

Michael (Avaterra): VZc...

Razzleberry: nice pink

Razzleberry: heh

Michael (Avaterra): but ... I have to admit ...

Michael (Avaterra): It would look good in Dreamscape as well.

Razzleberry: Well

Razzleberry: it is the options it provides

Razzleberry: large pillows

Razzleberry: Another example

Razzleberry: (I'm hurrying)

Razzleberry: I still have the text where you promised

Razzleberry: the anime bodies would only be available in DS

Razzleberry: the 2 "summer bodies"

Razzleberry: like this lovely one

Michael (Avaterra): They are only available for free in DS.

Michael (Avaterra): they are $25 in VZc

Michael (Avaterra): But,

Razzleberry: that's not what you said

Razzleberry: do you see what my point is?

Michael (Avaterra): no excuses, what you say is true -- and that was the#

Michael (Avaterra): original plan.

Razzleberry: and from what I read in the forums

Razzleberry: it seems like DS has been somewhat slighted

Razzleberry: in some areas

Michael (Avaterra): Unfortunately, it was changed, and yes, the critism is valid and I cannot justify it without

Razzleberry: and yet your most loyal customers

Razzleberry: live here

Michael (Avaterra): sounding totally "lame".

Razzleberry: Well

Razzleberry: I'm not asking for miracles

Razzleberry: or tons more stuff

Michael (Avaterra): No, it has not been slighted -- we receive the same complaints from the VZc members. though.

Razzleberry: because that also messes up the economy

Razzleberry: I have an account there still

Razzleberry: and I visit daily

Michael (Avaterra): They feel that Dreamscape is our favourite project now. The truth is, we have no favourite worlds, we

Michael (Avaterra): care about both of them.

Razzleberry: They don't know what they are talking about

Razzleberry: speculation

Michael (Avaterra): But it will always happen that one world gets something that the

Razzleberry: sure

Michael (Avaterra): other place does not get. Dreamscape has, for example, the interactive games -- VZc does not

Razzleberry: yes

Michael (Avaterra): have this, and quite a few members over there are not happy with this at all.

Razzleberry: And another promise not fulfilled

Razzleberry: the promise to change our monthly aco prizes

Razzleberry: more variety

Razzleberry: instead of changing colors

Razzleberry: There are lots of people

Razzleberry: who would be willing to come to DS

Razzleberry: people who others met in various worlds like Rose

Razzleberry: while we were "off"

Razzleberry: but in order to justify the monthly expense

Razzleberry: these people will want to see more options

Michael (Avaterra): See, one of Dreamscape's big advantages is also a big weakness: the age.

Razzleberry: How is that a weakness?

Michael (Avaterra): In August Dreamscape celebrates its 5th anniversary -- this also means that many items have

Michael (Avaterra): been used in the past already ... sure, there are many objects that current members have not seen, but

Michael (Avaterra): those who have been around for years have ... it would only be re-releases. However, I

Razzleberry: I don't expect to see new artwork

Razzleberry: I realize the expense involved

Michael (Avaterra): partly agree on the acolyte prizes and the low attraction they currently have. It is

Michael (Avaterra): something I am to blame for ... I did not approve many new releases recently. In addition, it has

Michael (Avaterra): been hard to get new artwork added to the database. I do hope this situation improves -- it's currently one of the

Michael (Avaterra): biggest problems that prevent a lot of new items in the world. (new items = unseen ones)

Razzleberry: I for one

Razzleberry: would be happy to see

Razzleberry: maybe an insignia hat

Razzleberry: as a monthly prize

Razzleberry: instead of a floppy one

Razzleberry: no new artwork

Razzleberry: but something on that order

Razzleberry: variety

Michael (Avaterra): I agree.

Razzleberry: shiny paints

Razzleberry: VZ has excellent paints

Michael (Avaterra): Kashmir could model some shiny pinks... weekly at these meetings.

Acolyte Kashmir:

Razzleberry: she does look a little flat

Michael (Avaterra): I cannot fix *that*.

Razzleberry: hahahaha

Acolyte Kashmir: yanno, would lock him out of the forums

Razzleberry: I am through pounding now

Acolyte Kashmir: but that's not punishment

Razzleberry: I should let someone else have a chance

Michael (Avaterra): I was hoping you would...

Razzleberry: but I do wish someone would go through V-mart

Razzleberry: with a "decorator's eye"

Michael (Avaterra): I will, I will ... and I am not against the idea of appointing a CT for

Razzleberry: and make a few changes

Michael (Avaterra): the V-Mart.

Razzleberry: I miss the green trees

Michael (Avaterra): or assigning it to one of the existing CTs.

Razzleberry: for example

Michael (Avaterra): I just cannot hire new CTs very soon -- maybe after August.

Razzleberry: I can wait

Razzleberry: But I wanted to make sure you were aware of the problem

Razzleberry: I know people in here who could bring in lots of new members

Razzleberry: people they met in other worlds

Razzleberry: thanks for listening

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Michael (Avaterra): thank you

Acolyte Kashmir: shaddup EG

Acolyte Kashmir: hey M

Michael (Avaterra): Hey Kash?

Acolyte Kashmir: EG would look cute in pink

Acolyte Kashmir: don't you think?

LuckyCharms: Hiya All !I'm back from Germany and soooo glad our home has been restored.I'm sure that it has been said before,but my personal thanks goes to Acolyte/SysOpsKashmir,if it wasn't for her singular 110%committment and efford, to keep our spirits up and...

Michael (Avaterra): Hi LuckyCharms

Michael (Avaterra): I agree.

LuckyCharms: before I say anything else... the least you can do Michael is paint her back to the way she was

LuckyCharms: and that's the least

LuckyCharms: please

Michael (Avaterra): you don't like the pink?

Caretaker gloree: hope he kept the code

Acolyte Kashmir: gee, no

LuckyCharms: Now..

Michael (Avaterra): I did, I did.

LuckyCharms: I have a thought on all this stuff about getting this and that in vendos and vmart

Acolyte Kashmir: EG, don't make me find Spooks

LuckyCharms: and about getting more caretakers

LuckyCharms: why don't you

LuckyCharms: ask the consumers what they want

LuckyCharms: in form of a questiionar

LuckyCharms: like David A did in tthe last days

LuckyCharms: you would not have to

Michael (Avaterra): Okay, let me answer this one first ...

LuckyCharms: be a great polititian

LuckyCharms: coming to the town meetings

LuckyCharms: promising stuff you want to do

LuckyCharms: for us

Michael (Avaterra): Wert suggested a way to survey people inworld, which is the way I would prefer. Only a

LuckyCharms: but get cancelled down the road

Michael (Avaterra): small percentage of members goes to the forums, and even fewer go there without having an actual technical problem.

LuckyCharms: and the care takers could be in charge of gathering the info

LuckyCharms: there are lots of people here that are into decorating

LuckyCharms: put out a questionary for them

LuckyCharms: then another for the shoppers

Michael (Avaterra): How do you prevent people from submitting 50 questionaries?

LuckyCharms: and discuss what can't be done

LuckyCharms: and why

LuckyCharms: then if the people don't like the changes you made

LuckyCharms: all you do is show them how we answered the questions

LuckyCharms:

LuckyCharms: it's so time consuming to come here

LuckyCharms: and listen to hearsay

LuckyCharms: about how many avies would like this and that

LuckyCharms: you need it in writing

LuckyCharms: votes

Michael (Avaterra): How do you prevent people from voting 50 times?

Michael (Avaterra): It takes very little time to get 50 different email addresses...

LuckyCharms: well the caretakers should have somewhat of an overlook

LuckyCharms: on who is who

LuckyCharms: not all but many are known and the alts

Michael (Avaterra): We have thousands of paying members,

Michael (Avaterra): many of them with more than one avatar.

LuckyCharms: we vote by avatar names

LuckyCharms: and I don't see more then 300 something in here last few days

Michael (Avaterra): How would they find out if an avatar name exists...? and even if so,

Michael (Avaterra): what if someone else votes under your name?

LuckyCharms: well if someone has 10 paying accounts

LuckyCharms: I guess they can vote 10 times

LuckyCharms: seems fair

LuckyCharms: and still more fair

LuckyCharms: then you guessing or promesing

LuckyCharms: us

LuckyCharms: what we want

LuckyCharms: much better then one or two of us coming here

LuckyCharms: and talking for hundrets

LuckyCharms: let all speak through voting or questionary

Michael (Avaterra): Everyone can send us email ... everyone can make suggestions to the caretakers,

LuckyCharms: does not have to be detailed

LuckyCharms: I mean just in general

Michael (Avaterra): these possibilities have always existed.

LuckyCharms: start there

LuckyCharms: just to actually listen to us

LuckyCharms: and they have not been exerced?

Michael (Avaterra): I do not disagree with what you are proposing, but if we want serious survey results or

LuckyCharms: what a shame

Michael (Avaterra): reliable votings, then we need to find ways to ensure that

LuckyCharms: well any company uses customer surveys

Michael (Avaterra): people cannot (or do not) cast multiple votes.

LuckyCharms: it's as reliable as any

Michael (Avaterra): Wert's idea is basically based on ESP, which I think is the most reliable and secure way -- not perfectly

Michael (Avaterra): safe, of course, but more reliable than email or web page surveys.

LuckyCharms: either it's reliable to vote for our fav avies and play fairly fair games

LuckyCharms: or all is a fraud

Michael (Avaterra): How is it reliable if someone makes the same suggestion 50 times and

LuckyCharms: we are willing to take the error of margin I think

LuckyCharms: just try us

Michael (Avaterra): we believe it comes from 50 different members if in reality only one individual

LuckyCharms: each avatar name only gets to vote ones

Michael (Avaterra): person has submitted the same thing 50 times?

LuckyCharms: how hard is that to control?

LuckyCharms: do will have a 3 rd world dictatorship or what

LuckyCharms: sorry

LuckyCharms: but with the technology

LuckyCharms: I find it hard to understand that a simple survey can't be done

LuckyCharms: and why can't we have our Caretakers ask us what we want

LuckyCharms: before they make it be

LuckyCharms: could we try it?

LuckyCharms: with general ideas

LuckyCharms: I thought David A. said that he had great feedback from his survey

Michael (Avaterra): What is wrong with sending suggestions or proposals to the

Michael (Avaterra): caretakers or myself?

LuckyCharms: so why can't it work in less important matters

LuckyCharms: ok,

Michael (Avaterra): It can work.

LuckyCharms: I'm getting lots of esps

Michael (Avaterra): But my point is that these results will only point out a

LuckyCharms: about that we have used special voting programs in the past to tabulate things

Michael (Avaterra): trend ... not necessarily the opinion of the majority.

LuckyCharms: but we will take the 10% error margin I think over the no say at all and promises

LuckyCharms: I think

LuckyCharms: well if we are not listening to the people

Michael (Avaterra): The promises ... when I (or anyone else in an official position) tells you (the members) promises something,

LuckyCharms: and are following your trend or the Caretakers trend it's a trend nonetheless

LuckyCharms: just not ours

Michael (Avaterra): then we intend to stick with it. Sometimes circumstances simply change, and we cannot (or are not allowed to) do

LuckyCharms: yes,but I'm saying it's letting YOU off the hock too

Michael (Avaterra): what we originally planned. This risk always exists. The alternative is that I (or we) do

LuckyCharms: if you don't have to make all the promises anymore

Michael (Avaterra): not make any announcements.

LuckyCharms: we can't get mad at ourselfs

LuckyCharms: for going with a trend

LuckyCharms: but even then ,it is our trend at the time we voted

Michael (Avaterra): I think I actually have a good picture of what you folks want, and I even agree with

LuckyCharms: Samantha,thanks for thinking I'm taking up your time

Michael (Avaterra): many suggestions --- but not everything the members want can actually be done.

LuckyCharms: and I hope you will ask all the esp's like I'm trying to

Michael (Avaterra): There are technical limitations, there are restrictions in regard to

LuckyCharms: oh and Michael ,can't you please change our Kash back

Michael (Avaterra): future plans and needs ...

Michael (Avaterra): Of course I will change her back ... it was a joke, and I believe Kashmir would already have

Michael (Avaterra): slaughered me if she had any doubts.

Acolyte Kashmir: can paint me back but I can't take back that damn misclick

Acolyte Kashmir: uh huh

LuckyCharms: well I feel and I'm sorry to say so that I'm being stonewalled here when this was just a simple request to consider and it might just make the people happy and your job easier

LuckyCharms: Kash can I give you something ,a personal thank you?

Acolyte Kashmir: sure LC

Michael (Avaterra): Like I said, I don't disagree with you ... and I din't think anyone else does.

LuckyCharms: empty

Acolyte Kashmir: if its an ADH I am gonna be upset

Acolyte Kashmir: oh LC are you sure about this?

LuckyCharms: I won it today in memory of my Kitty Lucky

LuckyCharms: enjoy

Caretaker gloree: awwwww

LuckyCharms: and thanks for your time all

Acolyte Kashmir: I am very honored

Michael (Avaterra): thank you for your suggestions... and sorry to hear about what happened to Lucky.

Acolyte Kashmir: the only sash I will ever wear LC

Acolyte Kashmir: ofgs it does not go with pink

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Acolyte Kashmir: Mecca Damion Nut

Acolyte Kashmir: whew

Caretaker gloree:

Michael (Avaterra): Hi Mecca!

Mecca Damion Nut: i have been summoned

Mecca Damion Nut: hey you

Caretaker gloree: lol you hvae

Caretaker gloree: have

Caretaker gloree: hey

Mecca Damion Nut: ok..

Mecca Damion Nut: I Just got here so i hope this hasn't been brought up

Mecca Damion Nut: if it has just tell me

Mecca Damion Nut: I hate to bring up old stuff but what's up with the

Mecca Damion Nut: MAC software? Is it still going to be updated or did

Mecca Damion Nut: this big crash throw everyone off?

Mecca Damion Nut: lol

Mecca Damion Nut: I macroed it

Michael (Avaterra): David Andrews had a meeting with the staff yesterday -- he is interested in

Michael (Avaterra): continuing the development of the mac version. Caretaker Cuz (VZc) is currently trying to

Michael (Avaterra): find out what it takes to get the mac version on some of Apple's bundle CDs.

Mecca Damion Nut: ok cool

Michael (Avaterra): if we can make a deal, the future looks really promising for the

Michael (Avaterra): mac users.

Mecca Damion Nut: that's a good thing..

Mecca Damion Nut: one more thing

Mecca Damion Nut: i gotta make this short and sweet

Mecca Damion Nut: cuz i have something to do todayy...

Mecca Damion Nut: Dear Michael, Thanks for saving my dream...

Mecca Damion Nut: at first I thought it was a sceme...

Mecca Damion Nut: to make us have to go....

Mecca Damion Nut: cuz avaterra's getting po.....(poor)

Mecca Damion Nut: lmao

Mecca Damion Nut:

Acolyte Kashmir: ROFL Mecca

Caretaker gloree: poet nut G<>

Michael (Avaterra): LOL!

Mecca Damion Nut: anyway, see ya guys in the future

Michael (Avaterra): No... no such intensions.

Caretaker gloree:

Acolyte Kashmir: be at the game tomorrow I hope mecca

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Acolyte Kashmir: Norrie

Norrie: Hello

Caretaker gloree: hiya

Norrie: first I would like to thank ppl

Michael (Avaterra): hello

Norrie: especially Kash

Norrie:

Acolyte Kashmir: was a team effort Norrie, but you are welcome

Norrie: you were wonderful in the forum for all those days and nights

Acolyte Kashmir: Ange says she loves me much

Norrie: I know I saw your name more than any one elses but also Lindy

Norrie: and the other syops were great

Norrie: Michael

Norrie: I want to offer a small suggestion

Norrie: what Lucky Charms said is true

Norrie: we need a system to get suggestion going and votes

Norrie: I remember at christmas in VZ we could get but one tree

Norrie: maybe we could do that here

Norrie: ?

Norrie: one vote

Michael (Avaterra): We considered this -- the device would count how many items were given to avatars, and this could be

Michael (Avaterra): used for votes. The problem here is that this means the item count inworld will increase by hundreds of items for

Michael (Avaterra): each voting.

Michael (Avaterra): We don't have something that you can click on once and it registers your click.

Michael (Avaterra): without giving you something in return.

Caretaker gloree: can they be comsumable items?

Norrie: then perhaps with E-Mail???

Michael (Avaterra): They can be consumable items, but people would have to eat their vote object afterwards... instead of

Michael (Avaterra): keeping it

Caretaker gloree:

Norrie: perhaps you could send us one email per account

Norrie: We do not want MORE items

Norrie: that is not the point

Michael (Avaterra): That would be the best idea... but since we have no (absolutely no) tech resources right now,

Norrie: we just want some say in what happens here

Michael (Avaterra): it cannot be done ...

Michael (Avaterra): LuckyCharms is going to send me a sample for a questionary,

Michael (Avaterra): and Yummy just made a good suggestion that I will consider also.

Norrie: thinking.. but there has to be some way WE can help you and also have some say in outcome

Michael (Avaterra): so.. yes, we are going to do something.

Caretaker gloree: Ambika suggests they buy tokens

Michael (Avaterra): There is another way ... that I discussed with some staff members a while back. We

Norrie: may I ask what suggestion Yummy made?

Michael (Avaterra): could have voting offices ... but that would require a CT, and they would have to keep lists.

Michael (Avaterra): Yummy suggested a web-based voting system with some additional security features that

Michael (Avaterra): prevent multiple votes.

Norrie: that may work

Norrie: there is one other thing

Norrie: well 2

Norrie: I would dearly love to see flat colors of Turf paint

Norrie: we currently have black and white

Norrie: next thing is not vendo related

Norrie:

Michael (Avaterra):

Norrie: we all have patches.. at least that is what MS calles them

Norrie: we have some things that are condoned and some that are not

Norrie: we are able to have multi avvies forinstance

Norrie: I would much prefer this came from Avaterra

Michael (Avaterra): A "patch" is something that modifies the files of the original software distribution.

Norrie: not from out side sources

Michael (Avaterra): The multi launcher is not a patch, it is an add-on.

Norrie: exactly

Michael (Avaterra): Kenn's Painter, for example, is an add-on also, not a patch.

Norrie: but the PlugIn comes from outside not from Avaterra

Michael (Avaterra): Patches are illegal ... and well, quite dangerous.

Michael (Avaterra): Yes, I agree ... but -- it boils down to lack of tech resources,

Norrie: but some of the patches like glue all and unglue all that caretakes or acos have are not dangerous

Norrie: and could be very helpful

Michael (Avaterra): so while I would like to see a multi launcher developed by Avaterra,

Caretaker gloree: glue all?

Michael (Avaterra): it is not likely to available any time soon...or at all.

Acolyte Kashmir: I have glue all?

Norrie: lol

Norrie: someone told me of this in VZ

Acolyte Kashmir: boy I use the wrong avi to decorate then

Caretaker gloree: me too

Norrie:

Acolyte Kashmir: its not true Norrie

Michael (Avaterra): No, it's not a feature acolytes or CTs have -- me either.

Norrie: ok

Norrie: hugggs spidey

Norrie: I getting esps from acos in clouds sorry

Michael (Avaterra): the only remotely similar option CTs have is to

Norrie: I hear stuff

Michael (Avaterra): delete everything.

Norrie: perhaps we should have it then and especially Caretakers

Caretaker gloree: sounds like a good option

Norrie: not the delete

Michael (Avaterra): It would be a handy option to have, I agree.

Norrie: I will go now ... but again want to thank ppl for the hard work to get worlds up

Michael (Avaterra): (not a programmer, so not making promises other than that I will forward the suggestion)

Norrie: thank you

Michael (Avaterra): If there are other options you'd like to see in the client software,

Michael (Avaterra): please feel free to email me.

Norrie: I will lol

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Acolyte Kashmir: Q-Ball

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Q-Ball: Hugggss Ladies And Hi Michael

Michael (Avaterra): And I will need descriptions -- don't assume I know what patches do!

Caretaker gloree: huggggggs

Michael (Avaterra): hello!

Q-Ball: moew!

Q-Ball:

Acolyte Kashmir: huggs Q

Q-Ball: oops

Q-Ball: i can't spell

Michael (Avaterra): meow to you as well.

Q-Ball: okay..

Michael (Avaterra): Moew, I mean.

Q-Ball: Mecca asked earlier about the Mac software

Q-Ball: If this budling with Apples software thing works out

Q-Ball: will it be a new version or the old 2.4?

Q-Ball: I would think this would be a priority, as it could expand the user base

Q-Ball: and bring more money to the company

Q-Ball: And is the 3.1 PC software currently being developed/tested?

Q-Ball: And in light of the current "SWAT Team" situation

Q-Ball: will outside programmers be allowed to work on the software

Q-Ball: Sorry to keep on bringing up the same old topics.....

Michael (Avaterra): This is David Andrews' decision, but from what I gather he is open for

Michael (Avaterra): these ideas.

Q-Ball: oh

Michael (Avaterra): The fact that the SWAT team worked so well and has been so successful was

Michael (Avaterra): a good thing ... and should prove helpful for similar projects.

Michael (Avaterra): There are still some copyright issues ... not all parts of the software code

Michael (Avaterra): belong to Avaterra (apparently), which is one of the reasons why the source code has not

Michael (Avaterra): been given out to volunteer programmers.

Q-Ball: Yes some is licensed from Fujitsu....

Michael (Avaterra): Yes.

Q-Ball: thank you

Michael (Avaterra):

Caretaker gloree:

Acolyte Kashmir: Q set up that DS IRC chat room as well

Michael (Avaterra): But like I said, I think David might come up with something.

Acolyte Kashmir: as a really need DS page

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Michael (Avaterra): Is it permanent now?

Acolyte Kashmir: Lord Z-Meister

Acolyte Kashmir: the IRC chat?

Acolyte Kashmir: Q??

Michael (Avaterra): wiat, wait -- where is the IRC channel located at?

Acolyte Kashmir: LOL

Michael (Avaterra): Hi there!

Acolyte Kashmir: EFNet

Lord Z-Meister: Hello Michael, acos

Acolyte Kashmir: someone as a tiny addiction to IRC

Lord Z-Meister: I'd like to make 2 points

Michael (Avaterra): ah, no mIRC on this PC ... getting it while answering questions.

Lord Z-Meister: 1.I understand that you have limited tech resources,

Lord Z-Meister: and most here would like to see some unique Item.

Lord Z-Meister: 've seen that we have alot of "tech" talent within the community

Lord Z-Meister: why not deveote some of your tech resources to the creation of an art applet that allows people to do the artwork on there own objects ,...

Lord Z-Meister: you could tehn enter then into thte master database after they met Dreamscape standards

Lord Z-Meister:

Michael (Avaterra): Let me answer this one --- I was not inactive on that front ... I think Avaterra is

Michael (Avaterra): now basically willing to accept artwork submissions. It is not an easy process and there are some

Michael (Avaterra): copyright issues too. For example, if someone submits artwork, they would have to give all

Michael (Avaterra): rights to Avaterra ... I am not sure if all artists would do that, for seeing their creations inworld. However, I

Michael (Avaterra): think it's definitely worth a try ... what is needed first is written specifications -- what exact format is

Lord Z-Meister: I think what I've seen in the "The Sims" has been tremdously effective and popular and no one seems to mind too much about giving up the copyright

Michael (Avaterra): required, how things need to be done to be useful for us. I'll try to get this information and

Michael (Avaterra): make it available. Actually, I will discuss it with David on Monday.

Caretaker gloree: cool

Lord Z-Meister: Thanks,

Lord Z-Meister: 2 smaller point - almost a whine actually

Michael (Avaterra): One thing I need all of you to understand...

Michael (Avaterra): With Delilah currently not being around, there are many things that I

Michael (Avaterra): need to take care of ... many of these things I am not even familiar with and it will take some

Michael (Avaterra): time until I have things "under control". There are many projects that require attention... I am

Michael (Avaterra): going to delegate as much as possible to CTs, staff and other volunteers, but still, it means that not everything

Michael (Avaterra): can be done overnight. I do understand that many of you are sick of hearing this, and rightly so, but

Michael (Avaterra): since it is the truth and can't be changed easily, I think it's only fair that I tell you.

Michael (Avaterra): (done)

Lord Z-Meister: we know you're trying Mike

Lord Z-Meister: 2nd point - I appreciated the 3 free weeks off my ibill account

Lord Z-Meister: but what I'd really like to see is a turf rent rebate for those 3 weeks...

Lord Z-Meister: or is this a plan to reduce the M1

Lord Z-Meister: That's all

Michael (Avaterra): Oh, we talked about this at the beginning of the meeting.

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Lord Z-Meister: my apolgies - I was away

Michael (Avaterra): The easiest solution is to give every avatar a box with tokens that

Michael (Avaterra): cover rent for two turfs, for a month.

Michael (Avaterra): so that is what we will do -- I thinl it's a good compromise and does not require any

Michael (Avaterra): technical assistance.

Lord Z-Meister: Thanks you Michael, and all of you for allowing me this time

Lord Z-Meister: Ciao

Acolyte Kashmir: okay

Caretaker gloree: uhoh

Acolyte Kashmir: I saw that

Michael (Avaterra): wrong button.

Acolyte Kashmir: *** Kenn's Name List Manager ***

Acolyte Kashmir: Listing the top name in the list...

Acolyte Kashmir: -- The first name in the list is --

Acolyte Kashmir: Acolyte Dae

Caretaker gloree:

Acolyte Dae: Ok...

Acolyte Dae: Hi

Acolyte Dae: Summon me gloree

Acolyte Kashmir: happy birthday Doofus

Caretaker gloree: lol

Acolyte Dae: Thx

Caretaker gloree: too late

Acolyte Dae: To get back to the art issue, seems we need to submit the art in Photoshop format. The artists probably have a plug-in to then convert to WA image formats. Would it be possible perhaps to release that plug-in/add-on or at least the Local database format.

Caretaker gloree: but Happy Birthday

Acolyte Dae: I mean, the image format WA uses

Michael (Avaterra): Happy Birthday ...

Acolyte Dae: Thx all

Caretaker gloree: wanna be pink?

Acolyte Dae: No

Michael (Avaterra): I don't know. I can ask.

Acolyte Dae: The WA palette isn't hard to get...

Michael (Avaterra): You should see how many requests for a, erm, special b-day gift for you I get.

Acolyte Dae: So that'd be the less of the problems.

Acolyte Kashmir: yes please

Michael (Avaterra): No.

Acolyte Kashmir: drat

Acolyte Dae: And has for the art copyrights, I'm sure the people that want to make new stuff, would do it "freely", or maybe have something ine xchange IW.

Acolyte Dae: I know, but NO

Acolyte Dae: Done

Acolyte Dae: Thx

Michael (Avaterra): There also needs to be someone who approves and tests the new artwork..

Caretaker gloree: Hugggs

Michael (Avaterra): and no, NOT ME

Acolyte Dae: Yes... but if the art is done, right colours, right format, alot less work I believe.

Michael (Avaterra): Put that on my list and will try to get an info update for all of you.

Caretaker gloree: exciting

Acolyte Dae: I'll go back up before I turn pink Thx for the answers.

Acolyte Kashmir: bawk bawk

Acolyte Kashmir: that is the last name on my list

Caretaker gloree: oh

Acolyte Kashmir: IRC coma?

Caretaker gloree: that was it

Acolyte Dae: One more Question, E always says no, can we ban pink?

Caretaker gloree: dae was last one?

Acolyte Kashmir: yep

Michael (Avaterra): I am not in an IRC coma.

Acolyte Kashmir: hehe

Michael (Avaterra): I just logged on there.

Michael (Avaterra): Thanks everyone for coming to this week's town meeting.

Michael (Avaterra): Next meeting next week .... same place, same time..

Michael (Avaterra): same questions?

Caretaker gloree: lol

Acolyte Kashmir: no shoe questions

Michael (Avaterra): Hopefully next week will bring some better news.

Acolyte Dae: Can we get paintable shoes?

Acolyte Kashmir: there we go