Chat with author Yvonne Navarro - October 4th, 2000

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Original transcript kindly provided by John Freeman, former VZSciFi project manager who appears in this chat as Mr. Templeton.

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[Entering Locale: Sci Fi Convention Room]
[Welcome back! You are returning as a ghost.]
Mr. Templeton:	"greetings Mr Garak"
*The URL has been set to http://www.vzscifi.co.uk*
*Avatars: Mr. Templeton, Plain, simple Garak. Ghosts: Sorsessa.*
Soressa:	[Sorry, that avatar does not exist in this world.]
Plain, simple Garak:	"Hello!!"
Plain, simple Garak:	"How are you today???"
Mr. Templeton:	"I'm doing fine - you?"
Plain, simple Garak:	"Very well."
Mr. Templeton:	"Hiya"
Plain, simple Garak:	"Hello."
Sorsessa:	"howdy³"
Mr. Templeton:	"How's things? How is business?"
Mr. Templeton:	"Mr Garak, Sorsessa runs a RW shop"
Sorsessa:	"Business is picking up again after the kids are back in college here³"
Plain, simple Garak:	"What sort of shop?"
Mr. Templeton:	"Yes, our home town is getting busy too"
Sorsessa:	"Games and comics"
Plain, simple Garak:	"Really?  Very cool.  In the UK, US, or elsewhere??"
Sorsessa:	"US"
Mr. Templeton:	"Have yu talked to Robert about having a position in their new mall yet?"
Mr. Templeton:	"in here, in VZones I mean"
Sorsessa:	"I've gotta wait about doing anything until I find out what's going on with billing here."
Mr. Templeton:	"Yes, I gather there have been some problems?"
Sarah M:	"is this were the author event is??"
Mr. Templeton:	"yes it is"
Sorsessa:	"I have no idea what's going on around here."
Mr. Templeton:	"20 mins and counting"
Sarah M:	"lol"
Sarah M:	"cant wait"
â  GLÂDIÂTOR  â â:	"lol"
Mr. Templeton:	"If you want to read the transcript of Yvonne's last event, plese follow the links on our web site"
Sarah M:	"im changing my name by the way glad"
Mr. Templeton:	"The URL is linked on the wall, floor and table around here"
Sarah M:	"midnight angel"
C. Candy:	"mornin all·"
Mr. Templeton:	"Hi everyone"
Mr. Templeton:	"Event starts on the our"
Sarah M:	"10k for ur name!!!"
Mr. Templeton:	"hour, even :)"
Mr. Templeton:	"Has everyone entered the Storm Constantine competition? You can win one of her books."
Sarah M:	"im not american"
Mr. Templeton:	"The question to answer is on the vzscifi web site"
â  GLÂDIÂTOR  â â:	"nor me"
Sarah M:	"do u have 2 be american??"
Mr. Templeton:	"doesn't matter"
Mr. Templeton:	"Any member can enter"
Mr. Templeton:	"It will still be me running to the post office with the winners prize!"
C. Candy:	"lol"
C. Candy:	"just paying more postage"
Mr. Templeton:	"yep"
Sarah M:	"how do i enter???"
Mr. Templeton:	"But if it helps people enjoy this place then that's mainly what matters to me"
Mr. Templeton:	"Just click on me for the web site and e-mail your answer and address"
â  GLÂDIÂTOR  â â:	"brb all"
Sarah M:	"k"
Mr. Templeton:	"ooh taht tickles"
C. Candy:	"devoted partner¶"
C. Candy:	"i get to lost here....rofl"
Mr. Templeton:	"I have just changed the floors in the expressways..."
C. Candy:	"nice artwork tho"
Mr. Templeton:	"if you click on them it tells you which planet you have gone past and which one you are heading too"
Mr. Templeton:	"which might help you find your way better, if you use Skip's maps"
C. Candy:	"dumb bunny proof? lol"
Sarah M:	"which link do i click on"
Mr. Templeton:	"there is a mailing address"
Sarah M:	"where do i find the question??"
Mr. Templeton:	"just clck on it and it will open your email app"
Mr. Templeton:	"Right at the top under storm constantine books to be won"
Sarah M:	"k thanx"
Mr. Templeton:	"np"
*Avatars: C. Candy, â  GLÂDIÂTOR  â â, Sarah M, Sorsessa, Mr. Templeton, Plain, simple Garak. Ghosts: *
*~mi!!ie~, ambrosa ABB.*
Mr. Templeton:	"While we're waiting... if you click on Mr Garak there he has lots of info about member events in VZSciFi"
Mr. Templeton:	"He and Linsue run bingo and other games,such as trivia"
Plain, simple Garak:	"Yes, I do!"
Plain, simple Garak:	"TY, Mr. Templeton."
C. Candy:	"·"
Sarah M:	"hi millie"
Mr. Templeton:	"]I think between them they have tripled the events happening in this area :)"
Mr. Templeton:	"Hi Millie"
~mi!!ie~:	"hiµ"
Plain, simple Garak:	"We're working on it.  Hoping to hear back about a Sci-Fi event day, too!"
C. Candy:	"you should get as many as yah like"
Mr. Templeton:	"It's in my in tray!"
C. Candy:	"we tried to do 1 a month in xoom"
Sarah M:	"what actually happens in this event then. dso we discuss buffy books??"
C. Candy:	"was alot of work tho...lol"
Mr. Templeton:	"Yes you can, and ask Yvonne about her other work"
Sarah M:	"cool"
Mr. Templeton:	"tell me about it, C. Candy"
Sarah M:	"how long now??"
C. Candy:	"well this was a lil over a year ago"
*Wed Oct  4 09:00:49 2000*
*Total time online: 216 hr 3 min 57 sec, since Wed Nov  3 05:35:24 1999*
C. Candy:	"so things may have changed"
Mr. Templeton:	"Hmm, Just waiting for Yvonne"
Sarah M:	"k"
*Avatars: ~mi!!ie~, C. Candy, â  GLÂDIÂTOR  â â, Sarah M, Mr. Templeton, Plain, simple Garak. Ghosts: *
*ambrosa ABB.*
C. Candy:	"but we did all day or weekend events"
Yvonne Navarro:	[Sorry, that avatar is not currently in world.]
C. Candy:	"with prizes that we were able to pick out etc"
C. Candy:	"games unique to the event etc"
C. Candy:	"was alot of fun"
Mr. Templeton:	"That sounds good... I am sure Mr Garak and Linsue should get together with you and trade some ideas, "
Mr. Templeton:	"maybe?"
C. Candy:	"Ohhh well Id be happy to help out however possible...but Im a bit out of the loop these days"
C. Candy:	"lol"
C. Candy:	"Ive been offline fer a bit¸"
Plain, simple Garak:	"Yes, we would be interested in any insight you might have....  ³"
C. Candy:	"sure...esp me anytime"
*Avatars: C. Candy, â  GLÂDIÂTOR  â â, Sarah M, Mr. Templeton, Plain, simple Garak. Ghosts: ambrosa *
*ABB.*
C. Candy:	"³"
Plain, simple Garak:	"TY!!"
C. Candy:	"np"
C. Candy:	"I liked to think up new games"
Mr. Templeton:	"Ok, I'm summoning Yvonne now"
C. Candy:	"i found the same 3 or 4 to get a bit tiresome"
Plain, simple Garak:	"That's what we're trying to do, too."
C. Candy:	"well good luck¶"
Plain, simple Garak:	"TY  ·"
Sarah M:	"hi yvonne"
Sarah M:	"µ"
C. Candy:	"G'Mornin·"
Mr. Templeton:	"Ladies and gentlemen, Yvonne Navarro!"
Plain, simple Garak:	"Hello!!"
C. Candy:	"<claps>"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Hello."
Mr. Templeton:	"Thanks for coming back to talk with our emembers again Yvonne"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Glad to be here."
Mr. Templeton:	"\members, even"
C. Candy:	"quiet morning"
Mr. Templeton:	"It'll warm up -- a few people have popped in and popped out again"
Mr. Templeton:	"Ok: This is a moderated event. To ask a question, please ESP me and I will ask you to ask it if you are an "
Mr. Templeton:	"avatar in the room, and voice it for you if you are a ghost. "
Mr. Templeton:	"Yvonne, I know you have talked about this inworld before, but perhaps you could tell us again how you "
Mr. Templeton:	"came to be an author?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Well, it's pretty much all my mother's fault.  :)"
C. Candy:	"lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Actually, I always thought I'd be an artist."
Mr. Templeton:	"REally?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I took a lot of art classes and planned on majoring in art in college."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Life kind of got in the way and that didn't happen, so..."
Sarah M:	"hi buffy µ"
Yvonne Navarro:	"along the line I gave my Mom a book to read that I admired."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Hi.  :)"
Sarah M:	"sorry for interrupting"
Yvonne Navarro:	"She read it and gave it back and said, "You could do this.""
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"hiwhat do u do here?"
Sarah M:	"listen"
Sarah M:	"then discuss"
Yvonne Navarro:	"So that's kind of what happened.  Until then I'd just been writing a lot of complaint letters. <g>"
<ESP to Buffy The Vampire Slayer: hi This is a moderated event. To ask a question, please ESP me and I will ask you to ask it if you are an avatar in the room, and voice it for you if you are a ghost. >
Yvonne Navarro:	"But they were =good= complaint letters.  ha ha"
C. Candy:	"heehee"
Mr. Templeton:	"lol"
Mr. Templeton:	"do you still draw?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I do, but very seldom."
Yvonne Navarro:	"The last thing I had published was in the 1992 or 1993"
Yvonne Navarro:	"World Fantasy Program Book.  It was a graphite "
Yvonne Navarro:	"sketch of the Pumpkinhead monster."
Mr. Templeton:	"Collector's Item!"
Yvonne Navarro:	"You can see it and a bunch of other drawings on my site."
Yvonne Navarro:	"I wish I had time to draw more -- I miss it."
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"what's this got to do with books?"
Mr. Templeton:	"There's a link to Yvonne's site on her avatar, BTW folks"
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"¸"
Sarah M:	"were discussing later buffy"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Roots."
Sarah M:	"be patient"
<ESP from C. Candy: Do you have or have you thought about doing childrens books? maybe with your art as well?>
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"¸"
Mr. Templeton:	"Hi Buffy, we're talking to Yvonne about all the work she does, which includes her Buffy novels."
Sarah M:	"i want to be an author"
Mr. Templeton:	"C Candy, your question"
Sarah M:	"u write buffy novels!!"
Sarah M:	"cool"
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"i want ot be a stunt woman"
C. Candy:	"Have you done childrens books...maybe with your art?"
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"lol"
Sarah M:	"shhh lol"
â  GLÂDIÂTOR  â â:	"i want to be an RAF pilot"
Yvonne Navarro:	"No, no children's books, but wouldn't that be fun?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"The closest I've come are the two Young Adult novelizations about Willow."
C. Candy:	"yes very...maybe halloween themed"
Sarah M:	"willow my fav character"
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"but i want to still keep up my job as slaying vamps"
C. Candy:	"what age do you recommend willow for?"
<ESP from Sarah M: can i ask a question plz>
Yvonne Navarro:	"Well, that's hard to say.  I really didn't write it that much "
Yvonne Navarro:	"differently than I do my adult novels.  The publisher "
Yvonne Navarro:	"recommends it at about the 8th grade level, but I know "
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"waiting for laugh"
Yvonne Navarro:	"a lot of adults who have enjoyed it, too."
<ESP to Sarah M: Sure, I'll ask you as soon as she finshes>
<ESP from Sarah M: k tyvm ³>
C. Candy:	"great TY· Ill check it out"
Mr. Templeton:	"Sarah M, your question"
Yvonne Navarro:	"In general, the Buffy audience turned out to be older than "
Yvonne Navarro:	"the publisher expected."
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"god this is boring i'm off to go slay more vamps"
Sarah M:	"i would like to be an author"
Sarah M:	"preferbly a buffy one"
[avatar: Buffy The Vampire Slayer system: buffythevampireslayer acct: DBA,193709]
Sarah M:	"is it hard when u have to keep to the buffy storyline??"
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"yeah good idea write about me"
Sarah M:	"i write buffy fanfiction right now"
<ESP to Buffy The Vampire Slayer: This is a moderated event. To ask a question, please ESP me and I will ask you to ask it if you are an avatar in the room, and voice it for you if you are a ghost. >
Yvonne Navarro:	"It is a bit restrictive when you write in a set universe,"
Yvonne Navarro:	"especially if you're used to writing what you want.  There are "
<ESP to Buffy The Vampire Slayer: If you continue to interrupt you will spoil it for the others>
Sarah M:	"there r certain facts i have to keep remembering"
Yvonne Navarro:	"certain things they won't let you do, and they also give you "
<ESP from Buffy The Vampire Slayer: oh shut up u boring old fart>
Yvonne Navarro:	"a specified timeline, and you have to stay in it.  Buffy "
Yvonne Navarro:	"is a lot more... "picky" in that respect.  They want her to "
Yvonne Navarro:	"act, speak and look a certain way, and they pay attention "
Yvonne Navarro:	"to all of the details.  They're the same way with all the "
Yvonne Navarro:	"characters on the show."
Mr. Templeton:	"Were there things that you wanted to do that you couldn't with the Buffy books"
Sarah M:	"ty. i will look for some of ur books l"
Sarah M:	"³"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Yes, there were.  I had figured out a way for Angel and "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Buffy to get together, totally.   They didn't go for it -- thought "
Sarah M:	"ohh"
Sarah M:	"i would of like that"
Yvonne Navarro:	"it was too controversial.  Still, maybe I can use the idea "
Yvonne Navarro:	"in some way in the future.  Sometimes they'll reconsider "
Yvonne Navarro:	"an idea later."
Mr. Templeton:	"Does that depend on what is happening with the show's own arc?"
C. Candy:	"give angel a twin ¶ LOL"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Actually, the books are set in a sort of parallel universe, of "
Yvonne Navarro:	"necessity.  You can't use characters in the books that will "
Yvonne Navarro:	"end up being taken OUT of the series, such as Faith, Mr. "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Trick, other people who've gotten killed or slain.  So that's "
Yvonne Navarro:	"another limitation."
Yvonne Navarro:	"The Mayor is another character who could never appear in "
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"faith is in a comer"
Buffy The Vampire Slayer:	"duh"
Sarah M:	"buffy shh]"
Yvonne Navarro:	"a book or story, because they knew he would ultimately demonize."
Sarah M:	"nehave"
Sarah M:	"behave*"
Yvonne Navarro:	"The books are still set in the third season."
Yvonne Navarro:	"They're not ready to move into the 4th season yet "
Yvonne Navarro:	"because the editor herself doesn't know quite yet what's "
Yvonne Navarro:	"going to be happen.  You have to keep up the continuity."
Mr. Templeton:	"Right... have you ever had the problem where a book has almost got to publication and had to change a "
Mr. Templeton:	"plotline because of events in the show?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Angel is a little more open."
Sarah M:	"angel"
Yvonne Navarro:	"No, I haven't had that.  I have, however, been given an "
Sarah M:	"he has so many sides"
Yvonne Navarro:	"incorrect timeline and had to take a character almost completely "
Mr. Templeton:	"ack"
Yvonne Navarro:	"out of a book at the last minute."
C. Candy:	"wow"
Sarah M:	"wow"
Mr. Templeton:	"Which character was that?"
*Avatars: Yvonne Navarro, C. Candy, â  GLÂDIÂTOR  â â, Sarah M, Mr. Templeton, Plain, simple Garak. *
*Ghosts: riz, Sorsessa.*
Yvonne Navarro:	"That was Cordelia, and the book was Paleo.  The editor told "
Yvonne Navarro:	"me the wrong timeline, but then after the book was written in "
Yvonne Navarro:	"first draft realized that Xander and Cordelia had had their "
Yvonne Navarro:	"parting of the ways.  If you recall, she pretty much opted out "
Sarah M:	"shes with angel now"
Yvonne Navarro:	"of the Scooby Gang after that and wouldn't have much to do with them."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Yes, but the books are still in third season, when they're still in high school."
<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: I would like to ask how she made the transition from writing short stories >
<and articles to writing books, and how much of a "challenge" that posed.>
Sarah M:	"oh sorry"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I'm hoping they'll change seasons soon, but again, the "
Yvonne Navarro:	"editor has to be able to figure out the direction they're going."
Mr. Templeton:	"Which way would you like Buffy to go?"
Mr. Templeton:	"If you were writing on the show?"
<ESP from C. Candy: are you more frustrated or thrilled that you are restricted by the show?>
Yvonne Navarro:	"Well, that's hard to say.  This is a whole different environment, "
<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: actually she dived straight in to long form>
Yvonne Navarro:	"the college thing, etc.  It's kind of like she's going to have to "
<ESP from Sarah M: may i ask another question if it isnt to much bothe3r>
Yvonne Navarro:	"spend four years there.  From a woman's point of view?  I'd "
Yvonne Navarro:	"like to see her be a bit more intelligent.  I didn't get to watch "
<ESP to Sarah M: I have a couple racked up, then I'll ask you, OK?>
<ESP from Sarah M: ty ³>
Yvonne Navarro:	"the show last night, or Angel (I had class and a rainstorm "
Yvonne Navarro:	"made me get home too late), but it seems like she's headed "
Yvonne Navarro:	"in that direction.  There's a whole world of interesting ways "
Yvonne Navarro:	"for the story to go as she gets older."
Mr. Templeton:	"For instance?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"It'll be interesting to see what they give her as a "career"."
Mr. Templeton:	"Have you ever tried pitching to television shows, Yvonne?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I haven't really thought about that much, because I keep getting told to remember to stay with the "
Yvonne Navarro:	ÿÁ              
Yvonne Navarro:	"TV shows?  "
Yvonne Navarro:	"No.  I'm not a scriptwriter.  I use way too much detail."
Mr. Templeton:	"lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I have a friend who's a scriptwriter and a novelist, who "
Yvonne Navarro:	"got a degree in film school.  Every one of his novels have "
Yvonne Navarro:	"been optioned because they have a basic structure that I "
Yvonne Navarro:	"just don't understand but which he does instinctively because "
Yvonne Navarro:	"of his schooling.  He loved FINAL IMPACT and wanted me "
Yvonne Navarro:	"to do a film treatment for it that he would pitch to people "
Yvonne Navarro:	"he knows.  I tried, based on his instructions, and got this "
Yvonne Navarro:	"email in return that said "Uh... we have to talk."  <g>  So "
Yvonne Navarro:	"we did, and I tried again, based on more instructions.  And "
Yvonne Navarro:	"I ended up with the same "Uh.... we =really= have to talk." "
Yvonne Navarro:	"I ended up giving up on the idea.  Let the scriptwriters write "
C. Candy:	"oppsie....lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"scripts.  :)"
Mr. Templeton:	"C. Candy, your question"
C. Candy:	"o well i was curious if its frustrating to be restricted by the show(s)"
C. Candy:	"or more thrilling because it causes popularity"
Yvonne Navarro:	"It can be frustrating, especially if you view the characters as "
Yvonne Navarro:	"heading in a different direction than the editor or the tv "
Yvonne Navarro:	"people.  As the writer, you have to accept that you have the "
Yvonne Navarro:	"least say-so in the entire process.  It's work-for-hire and "
Yvonne Navarro:	"you basically just have to do what you're told.  I had to "
Yvonne Navarro:	"change a lot in Paleo, including the ending and move scenes "
Yvonne Navarro:	"around, all at the last minute.  It was pretty daunting."
<ESP from C. Candy: ever guest starred? <G>>
C. Candy:	"i cant imagine"
Mr. Templeton:	"Are you please with the final version of Paleo, which has just been released?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Pretty well.  Frankly, I would have liked to have left Cordelia "
Yvonne Navarro:	"in there more.  I always liked her acidic wit, and I think I could "
Yvonne Navarro:	"have finnigled around with it to keep her in there even if she "
Yvonne Navarro:	"and Xander weren't together.  But they made me take her almost "
Yvonne Navarro:	"completely out of the book."
Mr. Templeton:	"shame"
Mr. Templeton:	"Sarah M, your question"
Sarah M:	"Buffy is starting to grow now and her attitude is changing. is it hard to keep up with the changes and "
Sarah M:	"would u ever consider doing an angel novel????"
Yvonne Navarro:	"They also won't let me put in there a lot of stuff that people "
Yvonne Navarro:	"already know, such as past history or how the characters feel. "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Then I get complaints or remarks that say I don't "know" the characters.  "
Yvonne Navarro:	"I do, but the publisher and tv people just think I'm being "
Yvonne Navarro:	"repetitive.  Hold on -- let me go back and look at that ?."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Okay, got it."
Sarah M:	"lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"It's not so hard to keep up, as long as you watch the show. <g>"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I would consider doing an Angel novel, and have pitched a "
Yvonne Navarro:	"very basic shell of an idea to the editor for the bad guy character "
Yvonne Navarro:	"in it.  She didn't go for it at first, then changed her mind (see, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"how they do that?).  So I have to work on that now, although "
<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: You know, on her site, it says that there was an 11-year span between her first short story sale and the publication of her first novel...>
Yvonne Navarro:	"I'm kind of swamped at the moment.  But I think it's a good idea."
<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: yeah, I think she only wrote maye one shortstory, still does some>
Sarah M:	"ty"
Yvonne Navarro:	"ty?"
Sarah M:	"thank you"
C. Candy:	"thank you"
Sarah M:	"sorry"
C. Candy:	"heehee"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Ah.  hee hee "
Mr. Templeton:	"When you were here last you mentioned you had several  projects on the go -- any news on those?"
C. Candy:	"lazy typers¶"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Ty -- don't they make Beanie Babies?  ha ha"
Sarah M:	"lol"
C. Candy:	"·"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Well, let's see what's going on."
Yvonne Navarro:	"I'm still working on a novel called MIRROR ME, which is "
Yvonne Navarro:	"sort of supernatural horror suspense.  I'm on about page 140"
Yvonne Navarro:	"now.  I've got an intro to write for a friend's short story "
Yvonne Navarro:	"collection and a whole bunch of short story deadlines.  "
Yvonne Navarro:	"And there's that Angel idea that has to be done.  Expecting "
Yvonne Navarro:	"the proofs for Willow II at any time, because the publication"
Yvonne Navarro:	"date on that is January.  I pitched a co-idea to that friend "
Yvonne Navarro:	"I talked about earlier, the one with the film history, and he "
Yvonne Navarro:	"kind of went for it, so that's something we might write "
Yvonne Navarro:	"together.  I got, uh, 'convinced' by another friend to "
Yvonne Navarro:	"editor an anthology based on a universe that he created (he's "
Yvonne Navarro:	"an artist), and I still can't believe I agreed to that (big "
*Avatars: Lestat, Yvonne Navarro, C. Candy, â  GLÂDIÂTOR  â â, Sarah M, Mr. Templeton, Plain, simple *
*Garak. Ghosts: Çountess Diome, riz, Sorsessa.*
Yvonne Navarro:	"moment of weakness there).  And someone else wants me to "
Yvonne Navarro:	"update their website.  Plus there's the sequel to AfterAge, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"which I've been promising a small press publisher for years."
C. Candy:	"busy lady¶"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I'm tired.  ha ha"
Çountess Diome:	"running late sorry <g>"
Mr. Templeton:	"np"
C. Candy:	"CD·"
Mr. Templeton:	"Phew! Sounds Are you keeping up with your martial arts (Yvonne is turning into a real world Buffy, folks)"
Çountess Diome:	"µ"
C. Candy:	"lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I am keeping up with it!  In fact, last night I got a "
Yvonne Navarro:	"promotion stripe on my belt!  chop chop!  <g>"
Mr. Templeton:	"lol"
C. Candy:	"Gongrats´"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Ty.  (See, I'm learning.)"
C. Candy:	"lol quick study"
Çountess Diome:	"lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"But there's quite a ways to go."
Mr. Templeton:	"You have carved quite a niche for yourself in the horror genre... what type of horror really appeals to you "
Mr. Templeton:	"when it comes to writing?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Still, it's fun and a great way to work out and learn to protect yourself."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Hmmm."
Yvonne Navarro:	"I like the stuff that you can't really see, that's really unpredictable."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Vampires are okay, but it's better when you do something "
<ESP from C. Candy: What kind of books do you enjoy reading?>
Yvonne Navarro:	"different with them, the same with zombies.  Psychological "
<ESP to C. Candy: good question!>
Yvonne Navarro:	"horror-- when you mess with your mind-- gets really nasty, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"and I suppose that's what I like best.  Then you really have "
Yvonne Navarro:	"to be strong to fight it, not just physically, but =inside= yourself."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Sometimes what you can only imagine is far scarier than "
Yvonne Navarro:	"what you can see right in front of you."
Mr. Templeton:	"I always find horror movies less scary once you've seen the monster"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Exactly.  Which is why in most of them, if there's only one monster, you don't usually see it until the end."
<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: I would like to ask what sort of 'steps' she goes through, or what kind of personal 'formula' she has, when she sits down to write a new novel.>
Yvonne Navarro:	"Or you get only glimpses of it."
Mr. Templeton:	"C.Candy, your question"
C. Candy:	"What type of books do you enjoy reading....if you get time..lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Oh, that time thing again!"
C. Candy:	"heh"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Actually, I like all kinds of books.  Horror, suspense, even "
Yvonne Navarro:	"romances and westerns, mainstream.  The best, I think, "
<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: your question next!>
Yvonne Navarro:	"are books that manage to combine a little bit of everything "
Yvonne Navarro:	"in them -- action and adventure, suspense, and you need "
Yvonne Navarro:	"some romance in there, a couple of characters who care "
Yvonne Navarro:	"about each other and whom the reader cares about.  Otherwise"
Yvonne Navarro:	"there isn't any reason to read the story."
C. Candy:	"any authors that influnced you?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Oh definitely."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Robert McCammon was a huge influence on me.  In fact, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"it was his work that made me want to try my hand at it.  "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Also F. Paul Wilson.  And of course, the standard for "
Yvonne Navarro:	"every budding horror writer, Stephen King.  Way way back, "
C. Candy:	"all males...hmmm lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"when I was ... uh, younger, my mother called me and "
Yvonne Navarro:	"said "I'm setting the type for this wonderful book!"  The book "
Yvonne Navarro:	"was SALEM'S LOT by Stephen King."
C. Candy:	"<shiver>"
Mr. Templeton:	"Mr Garak, your question"
Plain, simple Garak:	"Ms. Navarro, when you first sit down to write a new novel, are there any specific 'steps' that you go "
Plain, simple Garak:	"through, or any personal 'formula' that you have for your creation process?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I think the 'all males' thing is just because of my limited memory.  :)"
Mr. Templeton:	"<g>"
Yvonne Navarro:	"There isn't any 'formula' but I do spend a LOT of time "
Yvonne Navarro:	"developing my characters.  Sometimes I know how the book "
Yvonne Navarro:	"ends, a very basic idea, and sometimes not.  However, I "
<ESP from C. Candy: my last question would be.. What would you say to encourage aspiring writers?>
Yvonne Navarro:	"always work from an outline, so the story gets a basic "
Yvonne Navarro:	"development in that way first.  I wrote FINAL IMPACT without "
Yvonne Navarro:	"one and kind of got in trouble about 2/3rds of the way "
C. Candy:	"eek poofers"
Yvonne Navarro:	"through it.  I ended up in a big scene where something had "
<ESP to C. Candy: what do you mean last question :) it's another good one! >
Yvonne Navarro:	"happened and I literally didn't know where to go from there. "
Yvonne Navarro:	"So now I always use an outline at least for a general "
<ESP from C. Candy: lol...hogging all the time>
Yvonne Navarro:	"idea.  I also filled out VERY detailed character 'charts' on "
Yvonne Navarro:	"all the main characters.  You're much better off knowing "
Yvonne Navarro:	"more than you'll ever use."
Plain, simple Garak:	"I see.  TY!"
Mr. Templeton:	"Do yu find characters can take over the storyline and take it in another direction?"
Yvonne Navarro:	":)"
C. Candy:	"I'd love to see the room where you write ...prolly lovingly cluttered"
C. Candy:	"lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Oh, definitely, especially when the characters are very developed."
Yvonne Navarro:	"As for where I write, I live in the lower level of my "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Dad's townhouse, so it's pretty crowded.  "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Uh, hold on one sec -- got an emergency with the car here.  Be right back."
C. Candy:	"yikes"
Mr. Templeton:	"If she reads Stephen King its probably eating next door's Chevrolet"
C. Candy:	"rofl!"
C. Candy:	"that movie scared me sooo bad as a kid"
Mr. Templeton:	"Me too"
C. Candy:	"Christine..."
C. Candy:	"i wouldnt stay alone in any car...lol"
Çountess Diome:	"LOL"
C. Candy:	"alotho i did like how she fixed herself"
C. Candy:	"i wish mine did that¸"
C. Candy:	"aq·"
angelqueen:	"hehe i loved that movie  hi all "
Mr. Templeton:	"lol Quick reminder here folks and many ghosts... we're talking today to Yvonne Navarro, acclaimed horror "
Mr. Templeton:	"author who's car has just takenj on a life of its own"
Çountess Diome:	"hiya#"
Lestat:	"Greeetings·"
Mr. Templeton:	"she'll be back in a sec"
C. Candy:	"lol"
C. Candy:	"call whitley striber"
C. Candy:	"lol"
Mr. Templeton:	"I'm Mr Templeton and I am your host. This is a moderated event. To ask a question, please ESP me and I "
Mr. Templeton:	"will ask you to ask it if you are an avatar in the room, and voice it for you if you are a ghost. "
Çountess Diome:	"ooooo want him back¶"
C. Candy:	"no clue how to spell his name"
Çountess Diome:	"lol"
Mr. Templeton:	"while we're waiting you can click on me and enter our storm constnatine competition :)"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Hi.  I'm back.  I apologize."
Lestat:	"w/b·"
Mr. Templeton:	"WB"
Yvonne Navarro:	"There's something horrible going on with the alarm "
C. Candy:	"yikes"
Yvonne Navarro:	"system in my car and we can't get it to shut off. "
Mr. Templeton:	"We were just thinking your car had turned into Christine"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Unfortunately I parked it in the middle of the driveway "
Çountess Diome:	"not a good sign lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"last night because it was pouring and so now we can't "
Yvonne Navarro:	"move it so my Dad can get his car out of the garage.  Guess "
Yvonne Navarro:	"who's not really pleased with me right now.  agh."
Mr. Templeton:	"ack"
C. Candy:	"uh oh"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Anyway, until I get evicted because of this truck thing, I "
Yvonne Navarro:	"live in the lower level of Dad's townhouse.  ha ha"
C. Candy:	"lol"
Mr. Templeton:	"C. Candy, your question.."
Yvonne Navarro:	"It's kind of L-shaped and the desk, credenza, a bunch of filing "
Yvonne Navarro:	"cabinets are in the alcove."
Yvonne Navarro:	"I do stay organized though -- I had it when I can't find "
C. Candy:	"I was wondering what you would say to aspiring authors..."
Yvonne Navarro:	"stuff."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Ah.  My biggest piece of advice for them is to read their "
Yvonne Navarro:	"stuff out loud.  Really READ it, like you were acting it."
Yvonne Navarro:	"So you can't do it in front of other people (unless you're a ham)."
Mr. Templeton:	"lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"That way you find all the mistakes and bad punctuation, "
C. Candy:	"wow great advice....."
Yvonne Navarro:	"sentences that are too long, bad grammar, etc.  "
Yvonne Navarro:	"There's a FAQs page on my site that recommends a book or "
Yvonne Navarro:	"two, etc."
<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: Very good advice about that on her web site....>
Mr. Templeton:	"Does that help you create a different "voice' for your characters? Reading out loud?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Oh, definitely.  But the character chart is really what creates "
Yvonne Navarro:	"your character -- it's like 'building' a person from scratch."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Cover everything in it -- "
Yvonne Navarro:	"address, favorite color, family background, past and future "
Yvonne Navarro:	"problems, in addition to the basics like what they look like."
Yvonne Navarro:	"That way you don't end up with cardboard people."
Mr. Templeton:	"And you told us last time that you do a lot of reasearch, not just on your characters?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Yes, I will do research if a book requires it.  For instance, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"if it's set in a hospital or about a disease, I'll research that. "
Yvonne Navarro:	"If it's set somewhere I'm not familiar with, I'll research that. "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Sometimes I end up researching little things that I never use, "
<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: Have you taken a screenshot yet?  I can, if you would like for me to, for VZSciFi....>
Yvonne Navarro:	"or that turn out to only get a line or two.  But that little line "
Yvonne Navarro:	"is correct, and that's what counts."
<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: yep done, but ty>
<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: yw.>
Yvonne Navarro:	"For a lot of people, to read something in a book that they "
Yvonne Navarro:	"know is just flat wrong-- it ruins the entire book for them.  So "
Yvonne Navarro:	"take no chances!"
Mr. Templeton:	"Do you use the Internet a lot for research these days?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I do, yes.  But I also still love good old-fashioned books.  It's "
Yvonne Navarro:	"hard to put a Post-It note or a plastic paperclip on a website, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"ha ha.  I like to have a bunch of books open on my desk, photos "
Yvonne Navarro:	"that I can look at and text to refer to back and forth.  It's also "
Yvonne Navarro:	"easier to find a clipped page in a book three years later than "
Yvonne Navarro:	"it is to sort through bookmarks on Netscape or any other "
Yvonne Navarro:	"browser."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Frankly, I don't ever think books will be obsolete."
Mr. Templeton:	"Good news for you then <g>"
C. Candy:	"i hope not"
<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: What about Internet books, like Steven King's recent offering?>
C. Candy:	"nothing like the smell of a new book¶"
C. Candy:	"lol"
angelqueen:	"lol "
Yvonne Navarro:	"True.  There are other reasons, too."
Mr. Templeton:	"Have you explored the possibilities of online publishing yet?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I have, and I'm just not convinced.  For one thing, I had a "
<ESP to Plain, simple Garak: sorry Garak>
Yvonne Navarro:	"story up at Mightwords.com and finally pulled it down after "
<ESP from Plain, simple Garak: NP!!  ³>
Yvonne Navarro:	"a couple of months.  It's so "easy" to publish online that the "
Yvonne Navarro:	"so-called publishers don't promote it.  Since they don't "
Yvonne Navarro:	"promote, the 'royalties' they claim they're going to pay never "
Yvonne Navarro:	"materialize because, frankly, they don't "sell" any copies. "
Yvonne Navarro:	"People don't want to read off a screen if they can help it."
Yvonne Navarro:	"They want to read a book -- take it in the bathroom, in the "
Yvonne Navarro:	"car, to the beach, to a deli at lunch.  If you have a Rocket "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Reader, well that's great... until you drop it.  Then you're "
Yvonne Navarro:	"out $300 or so.  If you drop a book, just pick it back up."
Mr. Templeton:	"I agree with you, personally. There has been a lot of problems with work being lifted and appearing on "
Mr. Templeton:	"other sites and even printed in foreign magazines"
C. Candy:	"unless you drop it in the bathroom <g> lol"
Mr. Templeton:	"lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"This is true.  That's why when I put AfterAge on a computer "
Çountess Diome:	"i normally drop em in the bath <g>"
Yvonne Navarro:	"disk I disabled the abiilty to print.  This also, unfortunately, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"killed the project -- people don't want to read off a screen."
Yvonne Navarro:	"(They dry off from bathtub drops, but they dry bigger.)"
Çountess Diome:	"uhuh <g>"
C. Candy:	"lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"A Rocket Reader isn't going to dry out."
Çountess Diome:	"i hve a collection of 6 like that now <g>"
Mr. Templeton:	"of the novels you've written, do you have a personal favourite?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"That's hard, because I love each one like a child.  Still, I "
Yvonne Navarro:	"really had a tendency toward Final Impact... but I love AfterAge, too."
Yvonne Navarro:	"See, it's the characters in each that draw me.  So that means "
Yvonne Navarro:	"that Red Shadows, the follow-up to Final Impact, pulls at me "
Yvonne Navarro:	"too.  :)"
Mr. Templeton:	"All of which you can buy from Yvonne's web site BTW folks"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I really think my most favorite character in any of my boooks "
Yvonne Navarro:	"is Lily, who started in Final Impact and then continued on "
Yvonne Navarro:	"in Red Shadows.  She started as a "disposable" character, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"someone I created just to be killed off.  But she took on "
Yvonne Navarro:	"such a life of her own, and she was so crazy and strong, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"that she just wouldn't let that happen."
C. Candy:	"Do your books read better in order?"
Çountess Diome:	(was just reading chapters)
Yvonne Navarro:	"They don't have to be read in order, although I think you'll "
Yvonne Navarro:	"have more fun if you read Final Impact before Red Shadows. "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Those are the only two that are connected. "
C. Candy:	"ok great TY"
Yvonne Navarro:	"But you can read Red Shadows without reading Final Impact."
Yvonne Navarro:	"I had to make sure the history was there -- you always do "
Yvonne Navarro:	"in a follow-up or a sequel, in case the first one isn't "
Yvonne Navarro:	"available anymore."
C. Candy:	"Im gonna own stock in my local bookstore...lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Bookstores are wonderful.  Now can you imagine a store with"
Çountess Diome:	(me too <g>)
Yvonne Navarro:	"only Rocket Readers or the equivalent, and just lists of the "
Yvonne Navarro:	"books you can put on them?  Bleh."
C. Candy:	"bleh indeed"
Mr. Templeton:	"No there is a horror story."
Mr. Templeton:	"Yvonne, thank you so much for talking with us today , I'm sure you've made a few converts today!"
Çountess Diome:	(um whats a rocket reader? lol)
C. Candy:	"lol palm pilot kinda reader dealie"
Çountess Diome:	"ahhhh"
Yvonne Navarro:	"A Rocket Reader is a hand-held mini computer, like a palm thing."
Çountess Diome:	"i like paper better<g>"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Paper, and the beautiful covers."
Çountess Diome:	"yes <S>"
C. Candy:	"me too...I highlight really good parts"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Exactly."
C. Candy:	"colorfull metephors etc"
Çountess Diome:	"lol"
Mr. Templeton:	"I would like to wish you every success with your upcoming projects. If folks have further questions, "
Mr. Templeton:	"please go ahead, if you have time Yvonne"
Çountess Diome:	"i just remember the stupid quotes i find funny <g>"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Sure, I have time.  Ask away."
C. Candy:	"how do you cure writers block?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I don't hear any truck alarm going off in the driveway.  ha ha"
Çountess Diome:	"LOL"
Mr. Templeton:	"lol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Well, I've never had a full 'block', as it were.  I've hit "
Yvonne Navarro:	"some stumbling stones in a story now and then, but I "
C. Candy:	"show off...LOL j/k"
Yvonne Navarro:	"usually just take a break from it and let it turn over in my "
Yvonne Navarro:	"mind.  I guess a real writer's block is when you can't "
Yvonne Navarro:	"think of anything to write about, and I have so many ideas "
Linsue:	"Hello everyone sorry I am late"
Yvonne Navarro:	"for stuff that I'll never live long enough to do them all."
C. Candy:	"µ"
Mr. Templeton:	"It sounds like to me, you could always switch to other projects :)"
Mr. Templeton:	"when you get a block"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Exactly.  And sometimes that gives you the break you need "
Yvonne Navarro:	"to let your subconscious work out the problem with the other "
Yvonne Navarro:	"project you're dealing with.  Or sometimes just let the story "
Yvonne Navarro:	"take over -- don't think so much ahead of time.  "What am I "
Yvonne Navarro:	"going to do about such-and-such?"  Just sit down and start "
Yvonne Navarro:	"writing, and let the story dictate what happens."
Mr. Templeton:	"Would you say you were a disciplined writer? Do you assign yourslef a set time to write each day?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Gosh, I really need to buy a new pack of discipline!  Actually, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"it's harder working at it full time, at home, than people "
Yvonne Navarro:	"realize.  There are constant interruptions.  People think "
Yvonne Navarro:	"that because you're home you're not 'working' and they call "
Yvonne Navarro:	"at any time and want to yap for hours.  Or they just come by "
C. Candy:	"like us? lolol"
Yvonne Navarro:	"or expect you to stop what you're doing instantaneously."
Yvonne Navarro:	"No no.  This is a planned event.  And speaking of planned, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"I specifically told my Dad about it this morning.  But did it "
Yvonne Navarro:	"stop him from coming down here, even before the truck "
Yvonne Navarro:	"emergency?  Oh nooooo.   <g>"
Mr. Templeton:	"lol"
C. Candy:	"lol"
Plain, simple Garak:	"LOL."
angelqueen:	"what is the one thing for a beginer writer should know ?well the most important thing?"
Mr. Templeton:	"write, write and write again"
angelqueen:	"lol "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Even more than that, I'd still stick by that READ YOUR WORK "
Yvonne Navarro:	"OUT LOUD thing.  Had I done that earlier in my career, I "
Yvonne Navarro:	"think I would have gotten things going -- i.e., sold a few "
Yvonne Navarro:	"stories -- a lot quicker than I did.  I had no idea of some of "
Yvonne Navarro:	"the mistakes I kept making, the same ones over and over."
angelqueen:	"how did you finaly figure out your errors "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Well, editors are so busy that you seldom get a personal "
Yvonne Navarro:	"rejection.  But one young woman in California by the name "
Yvonne Navarro:	"of Jay Scheckley was editing a tiny magazine.  I submitted "
Yvonne Navarro:	"a story to her (this was back in the days of snailmail and "
Yvonne Navarro:	"self-addresed stamped envelopes as opposed to email "
Yvonne Navarro:	"replies).  Copies were expensive, so you sent a big "
Yvonne Navarro:	"enough envelope and enough postage to get your story "
Yvonne Navarro:	"back.  She rejected the story, but she took the time to "
Yvonne Navarro:	"edit a couple of pages, to actuall SHOW me what I was "
Yvonne Navarro:	"doing wrong.  Redundancy, bad grammer, bad punctuation, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"etc.  Things like describing something small as "that little "
angelqueen:	"punctuation my down fall "
Yvonne Navarro:	"tiny whatever" instead of just saying "that little whatever"."
C. Candy:	"have you done poetry as well?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Sentence structure.  I looked at the page and thought "
Yvonne Navarro:	""Well, DUH.  No wonder no one will buy this stuff.""
Yvonne Navarro:	"She really did me a huge favor."
C. Candy:	"lol"
Mr. Templeton:	"That's what I call a proper editor... I grew up reading about Asimov's editor, John Campbell. Thought "
Mr. Templeton:	"they would all be like that"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I've only done one poem so far."
Yvonne Navarro:	"They probably would be, if they had the time.  But they "
Yvonne Navarro:	"get so many submissions that it's become impossible."
Yvonne Navarro:	"As for poetry, I like stuff to rhyme AND tell a story, a whole "
angelqueen:	"how hard is it to find a edtior ?where do you start ?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"one.  So I'm not fond of a lot of what's out there today."
C. Candy:	"lol thats how i write"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Well, there's an 'editor' for every magazine or book.  So "
Yvonne Navarro:	"every time you submit something, the editor for that project "
Yvonne Navarro:	"or whatever reads it."
Yvonne Navarro:	"The editor is the person who reads and decides what stories, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"etc. go into a magazine.  In a publishing house, the editor "
Yvonne Navarro:	"is the one who decides which books get published and "
Yvonne Navarro:	"what, if anything, in that book has to be revised."
Mr. Templeton:	"These days though they also have to help maret the books, cost them etc... which used to done by a slew "
Mr. Templeton:	"of other people before effeiciency became a buzz word"
Yvonne Navarro:	"True, although that's moreso in the smaller houses.  The "
Yvonne Navarro:	"big houses, like Bantam, Pocket, etc., still have other "
Yvonne Navarro:	"departments for that.  The problem is that each department "
Yvonne Navarro:	"doesn't always get involved with the other department that "
Yvonne Navarro:	"much, and so sometimes you get some confusion.  Or you "
Yvonne Navarro:	"might have an editor who wants her book project to be "
Yvonne Navarro:	"promoted but the marketing people either don't agree or "
Yvonne Navarro:	"don't have the budget for it."
C. Candy:	"its a small miracle anything gets published"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Promotion can make or break an author's career."
Plain, simple Garak:	"Since you have more than 15 years of writing "history", do you find that you get edited less today than "
Plain, simple Garak:	"you used to?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"In the book market, yes it is."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Generally speaking, yes.  Willow Files 2 surprised the "
Yvonne Navarro:	"beans out of me by getting through the editor at Pocket AND "
Yvonne Navarro:	"the people at Fox TV without a single revision request."
Plain, simple Garak:	"Wow.  Congrats!  ³"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Still, you have to deal with copy editors, and if you get an "
Linsue:	"WTG³"
Yvonne Navarro:	"inept one, you can have a hard time.  I had a real problem "
Yvonne Navarro:	"on THAT'S NOT MY NAME.  Thanks.  :)"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Hey, someone with my face!"
Guide NiteKat:	"here you go ³"
angelqueen:	"lol "
C. Candy:	"lol"
Çountess Diome:	"Twins <g>"
Yvonne Navarro:	"But she doesn't have my hat.  hee hee"
Mr. Templeton:	"Can you tell us more about that?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"A copy editor goes through and brings the manuscript up to "
Yvonne Navarro:	"the 'style' of the publishing house, polishing up the "
Yvonne Navarro:	"punctuation, capitalization, etc.  Hopefully picking up any "
Yvonne Navarro:	"typos, any... what would you call them.  Dangling ends or "
Yvonne Navarro:	"mismatched facts.  Like you say "Tom has blue eyes" on "
Yvonne Navarro:	"page 37, but you forget (and this is where a character chart "
Yvonne Navarro:	"would have saved your buns) and on page 238 you say he "
Yvonne Navarro:	"has brown eyes."
C. Candy:	"lol"
Çountess Diome:	"Hi Storm <S>"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Unfortunately, on THAT'S NOT MY NAME I got a seriously "
Yvonne Navarro:	"over-zealous copy editor, what authors generally think of "
Yvonne Navarro:	"as someone who wants to be a writer but who, because they "
Yvonne Navarro:	"have never gotten around to writing their OWN stuff, can't "
Yvonne Navarro:	"resist the urge to change someone else's.  THAT'S NOT MY "
Yvonne Navarro:	"NAME didn't need any special help -- RED SHADOWS was "
Yvonne Navarro:	"barely touched at all (I had a wonderful copy editor on that, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"who asked questions before changing anything).  The guy on "
Yvonne Navarro:	"THAT'S NOT MY NAME literally tried to rewrite my work, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"crossing out entire paragraphs and putting in his own "
C. Candy:	"o geez"
angelqueen:	"can they just change with out asking ??"
Yvonne Navarro:	"words, filling the manuscript with terrible cliches.  I was "
Yvonne Navarro:	"furious, plus it took me nearly two weeks to fix it and  of "
Yvonne Navarro:	"course they needed it back 'right away'."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Well, that's why you get the manuscript back from the copy "
Yvonne Navarro:	"editor, so you can go over what they did to it.  Ostensibly "
Yvonne Navarro:	"they're supposed to HELP you, but this guy did a terrific "
Yvonne Navarro:	"amount of damage.  My editor's assistant actually wrote "
Yvonne Navarro:	"a complaint letter to the copy edit department (they had "
Yvonne Navarro:	"contracted out the job to this person) so that they would be "
Yvonne Navarro:	"sure not to ever use him again."
Mr. Templeton:	"Sounds like you need an iron will to be a novelist!"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Which didn't help me any."
C. Candy:	"hes in the mailroom now¶"
Yvonne Navarro:	"You do need a thick skin -- you have to be able to take "
Yvonne Navarro:	"rejection and consider revision requests rather than just "
angelqueen:	"lol taken out the trash cans now "
Çountess Diome:	"opppppps"
Yvonne Navarro:	"automatically say no.  I've gotten some wonderful  suggestions "
Yvonne Navarro:	"from editor about changing books to make them better."
Yvonne Navarro:	"My editor at Bantam is really, REALLY good at pinpointing "
C. Candy:	"not sure id handle critism well"
Yvonne Navarro:	"something in a book that would improve it."
Yvonne Navarro:	"Ah, but you must learn if you're going to be a writer!"
C. Candy:	"true"
Yvonne Navarro:	"The thing to do is to read it, then step back and think about it."
angelqueen:	"depends how it was said too "
Plain, simple Garak:	"How do you know if you have a 'good' editor or a 'poor' editor?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Just give it the benefit of the doubt, and ask 'Well, is there "
Yvonne Navarro:	"ANY chance there might be something to what this person "
Yvonne Navarro:	"said?'"
Yvonne Navarro:	"By the suggestions, and literally whether they make sense. "
Yvonne Navarro:	"This isn't the same as whether you disagree with them."
Yvonne Navarro:	"For instance, I sold DeadTimes first to a small press "
Yvonne Navarro:	"publisher, a different one than DarkTales.  The editor there "
Yvonne Navarro:	"wanted to change EVERYthing about it.  The character's "
Yvonne Navarro:	"sense of self and purpose, what happened in each chapter.  "
Yvonne Navarro:	"He also wanted to change the events, and one of the most "
Yvonne Navarro:	"telling thing was in the Salem Witch Trial chapter.  There, he "
C. Candy:	"wb"
Çountess Diome:	"w/b storm"
Yvonne Navarro:	"said 'we need to burn a witch at the stake.'  Well, in the "
Yvonne Navarro:	"States no witch was ever burned at the stake, and the story "
Yvonne Navarro:	"was heavily researched and grounded in fact.  Over here, "
Yvonne Navarro:	"they hung witches.  I didn't want to change it but he wanted to---"
Yvonne Navarro:	"he literally didn't CARE that it would be factually wrong.  I "
Storm Constantine:	"Hi, sorry about that.  Lost connection"
Yvonne Navarro:	"ended up asking him why he'd wanted to buy the book to begin "
angelqueen:	"who won the battle ?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"with because he didn't seem to like anything about it, and "
Çountess Diome:	"happens all the time <S> you get used to it <g>"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I killed the deal."
Mr. Templeton:	"Good for you... brave move"
angelqueen:	"yes realy "
Plain, simple Garak:	"That sounds pretty flagrent."
Mr. Templeton:	"Yvonne, thanks so mucyh for talking with us today..."
Yvonne Navarro:	"So it's published now, by a publisher who changed hardly "
Plain, simple Garak:	"...on their part, that is."
Yvonne Navarro:	"anything in the book."
Yvonne Navarro:	"It's fun.  :)"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Any other questions?"
Mr. Templeton:	"I think we'd all like to wish you all the best with your projects"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Ty.  hee hee"
angelqueen:	"yes the best "
Plain, simple Garak:	"TYVM, Yvonne!!  ³"
Mr. Templeton:	"This has been a great time chatting with you again"
Çountess Diome:	"i gonna finish reading my chapters"
Çountess Diome:	"<g>"
Mr. Templeton:	"Please click on Yvonne for her own web site"
angelqueen:	"thanks for giving up you time too "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Come and visit my web site.  (promo  ha ha)"
Çountess Diome:	"least i can't drop em in the bath <g>"
Linsue:	"Thanks Yvonne sorry I missed so much"
angelqueen:	"i am there already "
Çountess Diome:	"me too lol"
Mr. Templeton:	"and we will post a transcript of this event on the vzscifi site soon, once Yvonne has edited it"
Yvonne Navarro:	"I try to keep it up to date."
Mr. Templeton:	":)"
Linsue:	"³"
Çountess Diome:	"have a lil Vamp <g>"
angelqueen:	"awww "
C. Candy:	"heehee¶"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Thanks everyone for listening to me yammer on for so long."
Plain, simple Garak:	"Enjoyed it very much...."
angelqueen:	"i loved it 1st time i ever came ot one of these events "
C. Candy:	"I did as well TYVM·"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Anyone else have any more questions?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Hey, what's this little thingy in my lap!  :)"
Çountess Diome:	"its a lil Vamp <g>"
angelqueen:	"doll "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Cool!  Thank you!"
Çountess Diome:	"offspring <g>"
C. Candy:	"Im gonna see if my 9 year old can read the Willow books"
angelqueen:	"lol "
Çountess Diome:	"can have my 8yr old too if you want him <g>"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Oh, I think she can.  They're very 'gentle' in that respect."
angelqueen:	"pixel vamp offspring "
C. Candy:	"lol"
Mr. Templeton:	"Thanks Yvoone, do you need directions back to your own turf now?"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Well, thanks for the offer of the 8 year old but my Dad won't even let me have a puppy."
Çountess Diome:	"LOL"
Mr. Templeton:	"lol"
Linsue:	"lol"
C. Candy:	"She can get thro Potters pretty well ...and they are loooong"
C. Candy:	"lol"
Çountess Diome:	"he's quiet now <g> he's watching angel lmao"
Yvonne Navarro:	"She'll do great then.  I wish I'd written the Harry Potter books!  ha ha"
C. Candy:	"yah me too"
C. Candy:	"lol"
Storm Constantine:	"Don't we all!"
Çountess Diome:	"prefer the Discworld books <g>"
C. Candy:	"Im going to use your advice on her as well...she really loves writing"
angelqueen:	"wish my son liked to read "
angelqueen:	"its like cutting his arm off to get him to read "
C. Candy:	"Shell get a kick out of knowing I spoke to you¶"
Yvonne Navarro:	"Try to get her to read out loud.  As she gets older and more "
Yvonne Navarro:	"confident, she'll start =wanting= to read her stories to other "
Yvonne Navarro:	"people.  "
Mr. Templeton:	"brb back folks"
Çountess Diome:	"kk "
Yvonne Navarro:	"Maybe he just hasn't found the right books?"